Nato in talks to put nuclear weapons on standby

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/06/16/nato-jens-stoltenberg-nuclear-weapons-deployt-russia-china/

by Dry-Sympathy-3451

15 comments
  1. i thought they were always on standby? There are supposed to be submarines hidden that are ready to send a retaliatory strike anytime, anywhere

  2. So, nuclear weapons are always on alert, or “standby.” I guess this is a message to Putin, which is somthing Putin does all the time with his own sabre rattling …. ahem …. “nuclear strike warnings!” He does it so much, it kind of lost it’s impact long ago.

  3. “Jens Stoltenberg at a Nato press conference in Brussels

    Nato is in talks to deploy more nuclear weapons in the face of a growing threat from Russia and China, the head of the alliance has said.”

    (Slightly misleading headline)

    Also UK has a CAS (Continuously At Sea) deterrent so always on deployment should the need arise.

  4. The question I have is … Who would we be trying to threaten? Russia, China, whoever else already knows what’s in our arsenal, so waving them around in public doesn’t really do anything. It also normalizes nuclear threats, and in my opinion, makes whatever country look weak.

    Putin waves his nukes around because that’s all he has against the west. Without those nukes, the Ukraine war would have already been over. The west would have intervened already. He has to nuke sabre rattle because his conventional weapons and military are no match.

    I really don’t understand the weakness coming out of the west. We seem to be scared of our own shadows.

    Now If we really wanted to jump up the nuclear escalation ladder, instead of some weak public display, we should tear up the nuclear non proliferation treaty, and just give Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, and hell even Romania their own nukes, independent from any other country. That my friends, is an actual threat with some teeth.

  5. If we could go straight to Defcon-~~4~~ **1**… *That’d be greeaat*

  6. I wonder if this has to do with the recent nuclear drill Russia is conducting with Belarus…

  7. If we are bringing back the fear of nuclear war, can we have back the pre-neoliberal wellfare state too?

  8. china arming themselves with nukes and we don’t give a fuck about it because we do business with them. they cannibalize the business that we establish there and establish their own and pump state money into it and make us gradually irrelevant in the region and even start to flooding our own markets with their shit. because we were still able to do some business in there. and after all this we will finally show at least some teeth. but seeing the pattern, i bet we’d still do shit until the last second, because we’d be doing business with them.

  9. But Putin, Putin, Putin!!! He can’t live without nukes!!!

  10. First, it’s another bullshitty headline

    Second, they can just go ahead and stage more weapons and let the Russians know through diplomatic channels. No need to do media on it.

    I am just not a fan of aping the bullshit Putin does. It normalizes this behavior, and if you do that enough than any fog of war situation that might arise could be met with an itchy finger. Not a good thing.

  11. Instead of increasing the number of nukes, just move 200 of them deep into the Finnish forests. Flight time to target 4 minutes ensuring MAD. The Orcs would have to stop their war mongering and plant beets instead.

  12. How long can the russia make nuclear threats before NATO has to make a prerequisite first strike to keep the rest of the world safe. Time is ticking and the window is getting smaller. Wait for russia to do it against us or us making sure russia never does it or has the possibility to threaten with it again?

  13. The Telegraph UK should be blacklisted in this Subreddit if it were up to me. They are the absolute worst “publication” in the UK.

    Every single time I go to their homepage, which really is not often. They proclaim WW III is about to go down, this time for real. It has been like this for at least the last 10 years. In my opinion they don’t follow good journalistic principles and often act in bad faith by generating outrageous click bait headlines and articles. Their number fun agenda seems to be to generate fear and outrage. I can’t take anything they write serious. That is to say, there have already been very good and correct answers in this thread, so I’ll not repeat those except for yes, the nukes are of course always ready.

    For those who don’t know by the way. In an undisclosed base in the US it’s Armageddon every single day, every hour or so. I don’t remember now if it was every 30, 60 or 90 minutes or random intervals. But what happens is that the two officers who need to confirm the president has given the order to launch the nukes, do actually give the confirmation and the go every single day many times during their regular shifts. Yes, they confirm the code, hack in their code and press launch. I don’t remember the exact details, but you get the idea. This is a similar principle to two executioners pressing the button to kill the person sentence to death, the two will not know who clicked the live button and did the actual killing. In the case of these soldiers they are used follow these orders. They will not know when the real scenario goes down and follow orders as they do day in and day out. This is to prevent hesitation in case shit goes down for real. It was an interesting documentary I watched quite some time ago in YouTube. I don’t remember the name but I’m sure if one wants to know more it can be googled easily.

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