The deceptive Biden G7 video was quickly debunked. It kept going viral anyway.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/misinformation/biden-g7-video-joe-cheapfake-kept-going-viral-rcna157591

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  1. Cults are hard. Especially ones with the major entertainment infrastructure they started really investing in in the 80s.

  2. Plandemic was debunked in two seconds yet I had to clean out half my FB friends list to keep from seeing it on a daily basis… It’s almost as if people care more about their own confirmation bias than facts.

  3. >Google recommended false versions of the story as “top stories” and the deceptive videos continued to accumulate millions of views on X. Copies of the videos were replayed on TikTok and YouTube with little context and zero indication that they were part of a concerted disinformation campaign. Meta, the parent company of Instagram and Facebook, applied fact-checking labels to some posts but not to all.

    When one side is seeing and hearing purposefully manipulated media there is no way we will ever unite over anything ever. We need a new law with teeth that addresses media manipulation and lies.

  4. Because MAGA doesn’t care about truth.

    They will willfully deny reality because the fantasy they live in makes them feel good.

  5. “Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it; so that when Men come to be undeceiv’d, it is too late”
    –Jonathan Swift, 1710

  6. Truth doesn’t matter any more. Orange baboon out front shoulda told ya

  7. The same people who don’t understand language and idioms are the same people who don’t understand the difference between facts and opinions.

  8. magas are gullible and able to believe literally anything simply because they want to.

  9. It didn’t help that even the Daily Show poked fun at him for that video, and they didn’t even show the edited version.

  10. >Google defended the company’s search results in a statement Tuesday to NBC News, saying that it considers the New York Post one of the “high-quality sources” for its search engine and for YouTube, which Google owns. 

    The New York Post is a “high-quality source”? 

  11. The people it was made to deceive made up their minds before watching

  12. >Google defended the company’s search results in a statement Tuesday to NBC News, saying that it considers the New York Post one of the “high-quality sources” for its search engine and for YouTube, which Google owns. 

    Fuck you, Google.

  13. Fox News itself is spreading the fake videos. They should be sued.

  14. Idiots are spamming it on /r/sopranoscirclejerk of all places, the fucking stunads.

  15. It doesn’t matter if it is true or not. If you make enough material backing up lies, then those lies are now the truth in MAGA world.

    For instance, a conservative grifter could claim that the Democrats are trafficking children, produce AI generated images of ‘missing’ children, make a low budget documentary about it, throw a whole bunch of accusations around and there you have it, all the evidence MAGA needs to not only believe it, but actually believe they have tangible proof of these claims.

  16. This is why I don’t bother talking to MAGAs any longer…they simply do not live in reality, and they are *totally* fine with it.

  17. The uncomfortable truth is that R voters literally do not care if it’s true.

    They care that it validates their world view, and even if you were able to push them to admit it wasn’t true, they’ll say something like “Well it might as well have been true. He would do that.” And then refuse to examine why they hold that opinion.

  18. It like Joe Rogan blaming Biden for what Trump actually said but then when he’s corrected, it’s suddenly oh ok no big deal because it’s Trump.

    Joe Rogan Fact-Checked For Calling Biden Mentally ‘Done

    https://youtu.be/CQgT7OVdzKA

  19. i don’t think ‘going viral’ is the same as ‘deliberately being foisted upon’.

  20. >The episode illustrated the dynamics of the new information ecosystem, in which tech platforms are hesitant to emphasize vetted, factual information during an election year for fear of appearing partisan — even as partisan operatives take advantage of the platforms’ stab at neutrality. 

    >Laura Edelson, an assistant professor of computer sciences at Northeastern University, said that the people behind the misleading claims are benefiting from tech companies’ cost-cutting. In the past two years, companies such as Google, Meta and X laid off large numbers of employees [who worked on trust and safety teams](https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/tech-layoffs-hit-trust-safety-teams-raising-fears-backsliding-efforts-rcna69111), the core of the companies’ efforts to [limit the spread of misinformation](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/26/tech-companies-are-laying-off-their-ethics-and-safety-teams-.html). 

    >“They eliminated the staffers who were enforcing those policies,” she said. 

    >That puts the platforms in a relatively defenseless position against a partisan media outlet that decides to push a misleading claim, Edelson said. In this case, the conservative outlets were savvy about the topic, continuing to hammer the long-standing allegation that Biden is too old to be president. 

    >“The reason this can be so successful is that it’s not trying to create a new narrative. It’s trying to reinforce a narrative that both people in the campaign and disinformation spreaders have been talking about for years,” she said. Biden is 81, and former President Donald Trump is 78. 

    I would also like to add this link to an article in SciAm from last month, it’s mainly about disinformation “industry” tactics, and one part that feels relevant here:

    >In her book [*The Propagandists’ Playbook: How Conservative Elites Manipulate Search and Threaten Democracy*](https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300248944/the-propagandists-playbook/)*,* Tripodi describes how propagandists further sway the public through an “IKEA effect” whereby false information can be self-assembled from separate parts. Savvy pundits and politicians appropriate or create keywords and phrases—like “woke-ism” and “groomer”—that they tie to false narratives. By widely disseminating the keywords, the storytellers can embed them in search engine results. Researchers have found that the top results for “abortion pill” [commonly spread misinformation and disinformation](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-abortion-misinformation-and-disinformation-spread-online/). In other cases, fossil fuel companies have spent heavily on Google ads that [resemble search results](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jan/05/fossil-fuel-firms-among-biggest-spenders-on-google-ads-that-look-like-search-results).

    >
    Someone urged to “search for it yourself” is more likely to find a top result that conveniently reconfirms the desired narrative. Tripodi said the DIY “discovery” increases the value of the information seeking—like a chair you assembled on your own—and reinforces the story’s ring of truth.

    Another thing I’ll add is, the “Clinton killed Seth Rich” conspiracy theory. Iw as thinking about it last night, how it wouldn’t die even when points are brought up, because of things like confirmation bias.

  21. Of course it did. They don’t care if a thing is real or not, they’re MAGA, literally NONE of their garbage is real. They don’t care, they’re MAGA.

    See, the problem is, and I found this one the hard way after I started my last girlfriend after I learned about narcissistic personality disorder, we force our sanity on to them. What I mean is, we look at it from the perspective that, if we see a video, hear a story or whatever, and we later find out that the video we’ve been sharing or story we were telling, in fact wasn’t real, of course we would stop pushing this narrative, right? And so we just ASSUME that everyone would.

    And why wouldn’t we? No one who wasn’t just INSANE and didn’t care about anything they were saying would keep doing that. But we fail to keep in mind that these people are INSANE and don’t care about anything they’re saying. We force our sanity onto them and we need to try and stop doing this. I do it too, I think most people do but we just have to face the fact that, these just aren’t normal people we’re dealing with. At all.

    I feel like a good rule of thumb would be to just think about this, what would WE do in any particular situation and just try to figure out what the complete opposite of that would be, you know? But that’s just my perspective anyway, let me know what you think about it. And just be safe around people like that, they do NOT like to be challenged with facts but, I think everyone probably knows that by now.

  22. If GOp spent as much time on policy as they do trying to rat fuck elections they might actually have something to vote for.

  23. Conservatives tried scraping the bottom of their political bag o’tricks but found it empty, as usual. They just make lies up as they go along. They know that their cult members won’t do any “research”.

  24. Has Doctor Ronnie Johnson given Biden a cognitive test?

  25. Because they don’t leak these videos for a real cause or discussion. They don’t care what is really happening. They just need something to fill the hate machine.

  26. Its because MAGA is addicted to the lies. I have seen so many freeze frames on TikTok as “proof” that Biden is “filling” his underwear. I ask them to show the actual Video so that I can point out that they were sitting down, or that in another video he was talking to some people off camera frame. But the cowards WILL NOT engage.

  27. I can’t understand the mental perspective of the average person to go out of your way to doctor a video to make someone look bad. For any reason.

    It does make me think of Russia though.

  28. They showed it on the Daily Show. Kind of disappointing really.

  29. And because of free speech laws practically without limits, Fox “News” runs the story 24/7 as fact, using it as fodder to show Biden is senile.

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