It is genuinely a worrying trend. Actions need to have proportional consequences. Society doesn’t work otherwise. Now, this is not as bad as in SK for example (you and your 43 “mates” can essentially walk away free after brutally assaulting one teenage girl and the police would blame the victim instead…) but the punishment needs to become a real thing. Too mild punishment is just as bad as too severe one .
We need a new prison and we need better vetting of the judiciary. Or the government to introduce sentencing guidelines. It can be done to reform the laws for tougher sentences. I don’t know why the government are pretending why it’s out of their control.
That judge needs to go !!!!!😠😡🤬
In Ireland, crime in general is rewarded with no consequence. If any real studies come out they’ll show the ugly truth of how unsafe it is here.
Just to clarify and avoid being lambasted, because I know this case has been talked about in the last few days and everyone is(rightfully) very angry… I find wwn very sharp and funny but that doesnt mean i genuinely have <anti migrant, sexist, racist, homophobic> views.
This young lad deserved time and unfortunately didn’t get it. The only consolation being he was convicted and he will not be in the army long. They’ve started the process of fucking him out already.
In Australia about 50% of their news is about male on women violence (as not much else going on there). Recently I think they found the strongest indicator of a man’s threat to women was a criminal record – men with pre-existing criminal records were about 50%+ of cases of violent assault & murder despite being a tiny % of the population.
I mean, even if you TRY to play devil’s advocate here, it’s almost impossible:
“Maybe it wasn’t that bad an assault?” – she was beaten unconscious.
“Maybe she started it / contributed to it?” – he assaulted her when she asked him to stop homophobic abuse.
“Maybe it was an instantaneous act and he immediately regretted it?” – he boasted about it on social media afterwards.
We clearly have absolutely no controls/standards in our judiciary. Hard to see how they’re anything but inept or corrupt.
The judge was a joke. At least the army is taking disciplinary measures.
Is this fella going to be kicked out of the army at least? No way he should be allowed to stay and as a rule the Defence Forces should send someone from HR to factually read the guys service record if required, a Senior Comanding officer shouldn’t be allowed on the stand to give a character reference as it would likely carry more weight than from some Joe Soap or local priest/GAA Coach/teacher the defendant knows.
As for prison time, this was a particulalry nasty attack and I hope the DPP appeal this because there was not enough mitigation to justify suspending completely IMO.
A man can kick a woman half to death and get away with it.
But if the woman used THC drops for her pain/to improve her mood she would get arrested and made out to be a hardened criminal and the judge would hint for the weed smoker to commit suicide Vs continue to exist as such a henious criminal. Cuz we live in the absolutely fucked up, stupid, petty crime is more important timeline here in Ireland.
Meanwhile rapists are getting out on good behaviour or not even going to jail and men are facing no consequences for their violent, over emotional lash outs.
But don’t dare smoke weed or refuse to pay a TV licence, stand up for yourself if someone breaks into your house (if you hurt them they can try get you arrested, even tho they broke into your house) or God forbid, just be a woman in this country is enough to get punished and the mesaage being sent to young boys and men alike is ‘women have no rights, I’ll take what I want and worst that will happen is a slap on the wrist.’
Absolutely crazy this violent individual did not get a custodial sentence.
It looks like the defence forces are going to take action against this fella and rightly so.
Hopefully, the lady he viciously assaulted will take a civil action again him and teach him a lesson.
It’s been reported this guy is an officer in the Defence Forces.
If that’s actually true, he is a disgrace & an embarrassment to Ireland 🇮🇪.
What can we as citizens do to change this screwed up judicial system? There must be something we can do. Atleast i hope so…
Waterford Whispers doesn’t let anyone off the hook 🪝
In Ireland, a man’s career is more important than a woman’s safety.
Wait til you see the sentence handed down to someone who has lost faith in the legal system and has taken matters into their own hands.
My old geography teacher beat the shit out of his girlfriend for rejecting his proposal. Took her phone away and locked her into her own house before he left. No jail time, just a fine. Ridiculous
This is one of the worst and most insulting judicial decisions I’ve ever heard of in my life. Suspending his sentence because jailing him would “affect his future” is just plain bizarre.
An absolute disgrace. Poor woman. Completely life changing experience!
Yer man’s a little twerp aswell
It’s disgusting that this prick got off with this and has been going about his life and job as normal since then, the judge should also be ashamed of himself, he should have seen jail time.
Can we also ask the media to stop calling it a “random attack?” She confronted him for being homophobic and asked him to stop, so he beat her unconscious. That’s a pattern of behaviour.
What do u think fella?
You need strong men to weed out the weak ones.
I blame people like you for crimes like this happening more than it ever has. Hope I hurt your feelings
For anyone that hasn’t seen, there are a number of protests tomorrow
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It is genuinely a worrying trend. Actions need to have proportional consequences. Society doesn’t work otherwise. Now, this is not as bad as in SK for example (you and your 43 “mates” can essentially walk away free after brutally assaulting one teenage girl and the police would blame the victim instead…) but the punishment needs to become a real thing. Too mild punishment is just as bad as too severe one .
We need a new prison and we need better vetting of the judiciary. Or the government to introduce sentencing guidelines. It can be done to reform the laws for tougher sentences. I don’t know why the government are pretending why it’s out of their control.
That judge needs to go !!!!!😠😡🤬
In Ireland, crime in general is rewarded with no consequence. If any real studies come out they’ll show the ugly truth of how unsafe it is here.
Just to clarify and avoid being lambasted, because I know this case has been talked about in the last few days and everyone is(rightfully) very angry… I find wwn very sharp and funny but that doesnt mean i genuinely have <anti migrant, sexist, racist, homophobic> views.
This young lad deserved time and unfortunately didn’t get it. The only consolation being he was convicted and he will not be in the army long. They’ve started the process of fucking him out already.
In Australia about 50% of their news is about male on women violence (as not much else going on there). Recently I think they found the strongest indicator of a man’s threat to women was a criminal record – men with pre-existing criminal records were about 50%+ of cases of violent assault & murder despite being a tiny % of the population.
I mean, even if you TRY to play devil’s advocate here, it’s almost impossible:
“Maybe it wasn’t that bad an assault?” – she was beaten unconscious.
“Maybe she started it / contributed to it?” – he assaulted her when she asked him to stop homophobic abuse.
“Maybe it was an instantaneous act and he immediately regretted it?” – he boasted about it on social media afterwards.
We clearly have absolutely no controls/standards in our judiciary. Hard to see how they’re anything but inept or corrupt.
The judge was a joke. At least the army is taking disciplinary measures.
Is this fella going to be kicked out of the army at least? No way he should be allowed to stay and as a rule the Defence Forces should send someone from HR to factually read the guys service record if required, a Senior Comanding officer shouldn’t be allowed on the stand to give a character reference as it would likely carry more weight than from some Joe Soap or local priest/GAA Coach/teacher the defendant knows.
As for prison time, this was a particulalry nasty attack and I hope the DPP appeal this because there was not enough mitigation to justify suspending completely IMO.
A man can kick a woman half to death and get away with it.
But if the woman used THC drops for her pain/to improve her mood she would get arrested and made out to be a hardened criminal and the judge would hint for the weed smoker to commit suicide Vs continue to exist as such a henious criminal. Cuz we live in the absolutely fucked up, stupid, petty crime is more important timeline here in Ireland.
Meanwhile rapists are getting out on good behaviour or not even going to jail and men are facing no consequences for their violent, over emotional lash outs.
But don’t dare smoke weed or refuse to pay a TV licence, stand up for yourself if someone breaks into your house (if you hurt them they can try get you arrested, even tho they broke into your house) or God forbid, just be a woman in this country is enough to get punished and the mesaage being sent to young boys and men alike is ‘women have no rights, I’ll take what I want and worst that will happen is a slap on the wrist.’
Absolutely crazy this violent individual did not get a custodial sentence.
It looks like the defence forces are going to take action against this fella and rightly so.
Hopefully, the lady he viciously assaulted will take a civil action again him and teach him a lesson.
It’s been reported this guy is an officer in the Defence Forces.
If that’s actually true, he is a disgrace & an embarrassment to Ireland 🇮🇪.
What can we as citizens do to change this screwed up judicial system? There must be something we can do. Atleast i hope so…
Waterford Whispers doesn’t let anyone off the hook 🪝
In Ireland, a man’s career is more important than a woman’s safety.
Wait til you see the sentence handed down to someone who has lost faith in the legal system and has taken matters into their own hands.
My old geography teacher beat the shit out of his girlfriend for rejecting his proposal. Took her phone away and locked her into her own house before he left. No jail time, just a fine. Ridiculous
This is one of the worst and most insulting judicial decisions I’ve ever heard of in my life. Suspending his sentence because jailing him would “affect his future” is just plain bizarre.
An absolute disgrace. Poor woman. Completely life changing experience!
Yer man’s a little twerp aswell
It’s disgusting that this prick got off with this and has been going about his life and job as normal since then, the judge should also be ashamed of himself, he should have seen jail time.
Can we also ask the media to stop calling it a “random attack?” She confronted him for being homophobic and asked him to stop, so he beat her unconscious. That’s a pattern of behaviour.
What do u think fella?
You need strong men to weed out the weak ones.
I blame people like you for crimes like this happening more than it ever has. Hope I hurt your feelings
For anyone that hasn’t seen, there are a number of protests tomorrow
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No i think we need some sort of OBE or Knighthood ?
Just so the courts can show how important it is to celebrate such achievments.
Maybe something like WBC-knighthood ?
Wbc can mean wife beating cunt and woman beating cunt, so it’s an efficient acronym imo.