Out of the 44% that are for joining Nato, 17% thinks Finland should join immediately, 14% in the next couple of years, 13% sometime later. 24% is against joining and 32% could not answer.
[Source](https://www.keski-uusimaa.fi/uutissuomalainen/4464841)
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I wonder what’s the sudden rush to join
Throughout the years Finland has trusted the Defence Forces when it comes to defence. Recently I’ve heard several times that the forces are in better condition than ever, but now that a chance of a conflict happening looks more realistic everyone is shitting their pants
[https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000008515424.html](https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000008515424.html) 28% want to join NATO and 42% don’t want to.
If the majority of Finns decide that the country is to join NATO, that is our choice as a sovereign nation, and Putin can cry about it all he wants.
However.
I’m against joining, since Putin has absolutely no foreseeable *casus belli* against Finland. By joining NATO, Finland would openly declare to take a side against Russia in a possible conflict. This would lend Putin credibility in the Russian media about NATO creeping closer to Russia’s borders. Putin knows he can’t sell his rhetoric to the global community, he only needs to sell it to the Russian public. Your average Russian would not agree with an attack on a neutral Finland, but should Finland act as a NATO base, things would be much different. It would also irreversibly shift the balance in the Baltic Sea region in NATO’s favour, forcing Russia to act to keep itself from being shut out.
Joining NATO would mean Finland painting a target on itself, and tying itself to a potential global conflict, which could be avoided by staying neutral. People talk about security guarantees; the only reason we’d need a security guarantee from NATO is if we’d be under threat from Russia for being a NATO country. It’s a paradox we do not want to enter.
Before you know you will be bombing children in the developing world. For instance https://world.time.com/2012/05/16/how-many-innocent-civilians-did-nato-kill-in-libya/
Fuck nato and Usa and Russia.
No one has asked me for my opinion, i am sure a lot of others too, you cant just post these as absolute numbers
Kalmar Union 2022. Make it happen. United nordic empire!
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Doesn’t joining NATO make Russian be hostile to Finland?
Can someone care to explain why that much higher supporters?
0.02% of finns answered that poll.
Finland just turned 100 years old, I belive joining NATO would be the best alternative to ever see Finland turn 200
It’s like asking: ”whose side would you want to be on in WW3?” and only 24% say they wouldn’t like to have a WW3 at all
Finland is already allied with the vast majority of NATO member states through the EU. If an EU/NATO country in Eastern Europe gets attacked then we are automatically involved as well. If we choose to weasel out of the conflict due to our “neutrality” then the EU will lose all credibility and basically break up, which is exactly what Putin wants.
We are so tightly bound to NATO that it’s almost irrelevant if we join or not. Officially joining IMO would be the honest and open thing to do; we are and can not realistically be neutral.
Joining NATO means Finland will be at war against any country attacking another NATO member. High chances that this “any country” is Russia.
NATO is not just about the defense of Finland, it’s a mutual defensive pact. It’s worth thinking about it. By staying neutral Finland bets the chances of a NATO/Russian war is higher than the chances of Russia successfully invading the country. That and the EU will not let one of his member state being invaded without doing anything.
So there is not much incentive to join NATO.
WTH I wasn’t asked.
When they make these polls, are people getting any information about the ramifications of either option or is it just for driving a narrative?
Mate Russia won’t invade any other country they don’t have the economic power to do so , an invasion requires a lot of money and a strong economy, look at the Yanks they fucked up the middle east and couldn’t even fix anything there, now imagine Russia a less powerful economy they are not in the condition to do that
Russia can only muster 127k at this point. Most of the people I talked to are thinking “thats it? Come on, show us the secret stash”.
Meanwhile if that is truly the whole invasion force, maybe we should invade a bit a get some of the lost bits back? 2,2:1 force ratio is pretty decent for pushing st. pete and Viipuri.