> Two whistleblowers have told Good Law Project that in the seven years before the High Court decision there was one death of a young person on the waiting list for Gender Identity Development Services (GIDS). In the three years afterwards, there were 16.
Wait for all the “protect the children” people to be absolutely absent when the lack of trans healthcare is the cause.
They only care about being transphobic and restricting trans healthcare no matter if it costs more children lives.
This and the Cass review have now cost more lives than they were supposed to be “protecting”.
Restricting trans healthcare kills people, so where are the mass public calls to un-restrict it? Like all the mass calls there was to restrict it in mainstream newspapers and media?, where are all those armchair experts who said it was about protecting children?, children have and are literally dying?, why are they not doing anything now?
Sixteen dead kids. Sixteen trans kids who should be sitting their exams and hanging out with their friends and thinking about the future. Stolen from them.
Nothing can undo that damage and I genuinely I don’t think I’ll ever be able to forgive the people who allowed this to happen, or the people who paid lip service to a vicious hate movement whose only goal has ever been to make the lives of transgender people worse.
I will take this rage to the grave with me, I swear to god.
Is it shocking? Really?
Years of shitty rhetoric from the government and the media, years of absolutely terrible arguments in online places like this, rich famous people on Twitter with millions of followers being absolute wankers to trans people and setting fans on them just because they can.
We had the same with disabled people, and no one in power cared, and no one in power will care about this. Certainly not the tories or labour who are practically singing from the same hymn sheet.
I’ll be honest, I’m surprised it’s not higher but bloody saddened its as high as it is.
I’m an adult who has been on the nhs waiting list for over a year now and I’m honestly feelikg disheartened, betrayed and hated by the government,nhs and public.
At this point my only option would be to become some sort of human right avoiding capitalist…like a tory.
BuT wE MusT PrOTeCt WoMeN’s SpAcEs. Who would have thought demonising Trans people as rapists would result in suicides? Who would have thought that denying Trans people’s access to healthcare would result in suicides? Who would have thought that the masive amount of hatred directed at Trans people by both legacy media and those on social media would result in suicides?
Speaks volumes for the culpability of the media that they’re all brushing this under the rug having spent the last 4 years egging all these deaths on under the guise of “protecting” them.
Seriously Rowlings bi weekly rant about how trans people having the rights they’ve had for the past 20 years but that she only noticed 4 years ago after getting a twitter addiction is worse for women than abortion and birth control restrictions (she said this not exaggerating), or some RE guidance for northern Ireland mentioning trans people don’t just magically pop into existence at 18 gets front page news, but 16 dead kids as a direct result of gov policy ? nothing, not the BBC, the times, the guardian the telegraph, the independent, nothing at all.
Who could have predicted that a sustained media and government tone of outright hostility, ignorance, and hate would lead to this?
Number will definitely rise – but those who stirred up the culture war against them will not give a shit. They will continue to clutch pearls and scream about gender neutral toilets, or some random trans person in prison.
Note – this is just young people. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was also an increase in suicide in older trans people.
You mean to tell me describing and treating trans people as “pervert men who are just waiting in the wings to feel up little girls in the toilet the moment they get the chance” for the last 5 years may have, in fact, had negative consequences
Well, colour me surprised
The title of the post is awfully sad because I’m not shocked by it given the current political climate. We, as gay men, were predominantly the target in the ‘80s. Now, it’s the turn of trans people. Heartbreaking to see it happening again.
Edit: autocorrect
I wish I could be shocked, but I’ve followed this situation long enough to know this was a sad inevitability.
The effects of stripping away health care from transgender people was well known, and the anti-trans crowd lied and demanded it be stripped any way, because they a bunch of well-funded bullies, who don’t care who they harm.
I wonder what JK Rowling thinks of this. As the biggest anti trans voice in the UK, does she take pride in the trans kids she is contributing to the deaths of? Hmmm.
Calling death instead of suicide is deliberate and misleading
> “Shocking rise”
They’ve seen culture war bollocks try to tell them they’re dangers to society, threats to children, threats to women, not normal, than they’re “men in dresses”, etc, while seeing hate crimes (including violent ones) increase, while waiting lists for interventions has spiralled.
The same anti-gay rhetoric from the 70s and 80s is being repackaged as anti-trans rhetoric.
I’m not shocked by this. I’m saddened by this. It’s no wonder a lot of young trans people feel a sense of hopelessness. LGBT-rights in this country are in danger of regressing, not helped by policians to chasing the votes of a vocal minority, instead of increasing protections and trying to dispel harmful myths and falsehoods pushed by the far-right to split the LGBT community apart one letter at a time.
When Section 28 was repealed and the Equality Act came onto place, it felt like a weight being lifted for a lot. It felt like a wave of acceptance was coming. It’d starting to feel like that is now being washed away.
It’s shameful.
Hope someone confronts the likes of JK Rowling with this – the hateful, toxic atmosphere they’ve contributed to, around this debate has certainly made it much harder for trans kids.
It’s such a niche issue – both in terms of the number of actual trans people and the likelihood of the situations they catastrophise about actually occurring – yet these hate-mongers have done all they can to make life difficult for these kids.
This is a very microscopic view of the far wider issue of inadequate health care in this country.
This is one microscopic strand of the thousands of different strands of people not revieveing treatment because there is no treatment on the horrizon as the service is not performing as it needs to.
I see most people here suggesting that the suicides are due to not getting ‘gender affirming care’, yet there’s nothing in the article that points to this. Add to that the majotity of trans suicide ls or not related to GAC perhaps if the MH support that the Cass review recommended were put in place these needless deaths would have occurred.
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> Two whistleblowers have told Good Law Project that in the seven years before the High Court decision there was one death of a young person on the waiting list for Gender Identity Development Services (GIDS). In the three years afterwards, there were 16.
Wait for all the “protect the children” people to be absolutely absent when the lack of trans healthcare is the cause.
They only care about being transphobic and restricting trans healthcare no matter if it costs more children lives.
This and the Cass review have now cost more lives than they were supposed to be “protecting”.
Restricting trans healthcare kills people, so where are the mass public calls to un-restrict it? Like all the mass calls there was to restrict it in mainstream newspapers and media?, where are all those armchair experts who said it was about protecting children?, children have and are literally dying?, why are they not doing anything now?
Sixteen dead kids. Sixteen trans kids who should be sitting their exams and hanging out with their friends and thinking about the future. Stolen from them.
Nothing can undo that damage and I genuinely I don’t think I’ll ever be able to forgive the people who allowed this to happen, or the people who paid lip service to a vicious hate movement whose only goal has ever been to make the lives of transgender people worse.
I will take this rage to the grave with me, I swear to god.
Is it shocking? Really?
Years of shitty rhetoric from the government and the media, years of absolutely terrible arguments in online places like this, rich famous people on Twitter with millions of followers being absolute wankers to trans people and setting fans on them just because they can.
We had the same with disabled people, and no one in power cared, and no one in power will care about this. Certainly not the tories or labour who are practically singing from the same hymn sheet.
I’ll be honest, I’m surprised it’s not higher but bloody saddened its as high as it is.
I’m an adult who has been on the nhs waiting list for over a year now and I’m honestly feelikg disheartened, betrayed and hated by the government,nhs and public.
At this point my only option would be to become some sort of human right avoiding capitalist…like a tory.
BuT wE MusT PrOTeCt WoMeN’s SpAcEs. Who would have thought demonising Trans people as rapists would result in suicides? Who would have thought that denying Trans people’s access to healthcare would result in suicides? Who would have thought that the masive amount of hatred directed at Trans people by both legacy media and those on social media would result in suicides?
Speaks volumes for the culpability of the media that they’re all brushing this under the rug having spent the last 4 years egging all these deaths on under the guise of “protecting” them.
Seriously Rowlings bi weekly rant about how trans people having the rights they’ve had for the past 20 years but that she only noticed 4 years ago after getting a twitter addiction is worse for women than abortion and birth control restrictions (she said this not exaggerating), or some RE guidance for northern Ireland mentioning trans people don’t just magically pop into existence at 18 gets front page news, but 16 dead kids as a direct result of gov policy ? nothing, not the BBC, the times, the guardian the telegraph, the independent, nothing at all.
edit: [They’re literally having an interview about the schools guidance for trans people right now](https://x.com/BBCPolitics/status/1804817591296229483)
edit 2: [Figures they’re probably also not going to report on jk rowling endorsing the communist party today for some reason](https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1804592902167019897)
Who could have predicted that a sustained media and government tone of outright hostility, ignorance, and hate would lead to this?
Number will definitely rise – but those who stirred up the culture war against them will not give a shit. They will continue to clutch pearls and scream about gender neutral toilets, or some random trans person in prison.
Note – this is just young people. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was also an increase in suicide in older trans people.
You mean to tell me describing and treating trans people as “pervert men who are just waiting in the wings to feel up little girls in the toilet the moment they get the chance” for the last 5 years may have, in fact, had negative consequences
Well, colour me surprised
The title of the post is awfully sad because I’m not shocked by it given the current political climate. We, as gay men, were predominantly the target in the ‘80s. Now, it’s the turn of trans people. Heartbreaking to see it happening again.
Edit: autocorrect
I wish I could be shocked, but I’ve followed this situation long enough to know this was a sad inevitability.
The effects of stripping away health care from transgender people was well known, and the anti-trans crowd lied and demanded it be stripped any way, because they a bunch of well-funded bullies, who don’t care who they harm.
I wonder what JK Rowling thinks of this. As the biggest anti trans voice in the UK, does she take pride in the trans kids she is contributing to the deaths of? Hmmm.
Calling death instead of suicide is deliberate and misleading
> “Shocking rise”
They’ve seen culture war bollocks try to tell them they’re dangers to society, threats to children, threats to women, not normal, than they’re “men in dresses”, etc, while seeing hate crimes (including violent ones) increase, while waiting lists for interventions has spiralled.
The same anti-gay rhetoric from the 70s and 80s is being repackaged as anti-trans rhetoric.
I’m not shocked by this. I’m saddened by this. It’s no wonder a lot of young trans people feel a sense of hopelessness. LGBT-rights in this country are in danger of regressing, not helped by policians to chasing the votes of a vocal minority, instead of increasing protections and trying to dispel harmful myths and falsehoods pushed by the far-right to split the LGBT community apart one letter at a time.
When Section 28 was repealed and the Equality Act came onto place, it felt like a weight being lifted for a lot. It felt like a wave of acceptance was coming. It’d starting to feel like that is now being washed away.
It’s shameful.
Hope someone confronts the likes of JK Rowling with this – the hateful, toxic atmosphere they’ve contributed to, around this debate has certainly made it much harder for trans kids.
It’s such a niche issue – both in terms of the number of actual trans people and the likelihood of the situations they catastrophise about actually occurring – yet these hate-mongers have done all they can to make life difficult for these kids.
This is a very microscopic view of the far wider issue of inadequate health care in this country.
This is one microscopic strand of the thousands of different strands of people not revieveing treatment because there is no treatment on the horrizon as the service is not performing as it needs to.
I see most people here suggesting that the suicides are due to not getting ‘gender affirming care’, yet there’s nothing in the article that points to this. Add to that the majotity of trans suicide ls or not related to GAC perhaps if the MH support that the Cass review recommended were put in place these needless deaths would have occurred.