Alternative headline: Going into bed with FFG, for the benefit of your own income and pension, has a chilling effect on climate action.
There was a lot of criticism aimed at Ryan due to his really poor PR skills. So many gaffes and just plain silly things he did during his time in the Dail. I don’t think cristism about this is out of order. But absolutely there was personal attacks on him. The likes of the Irish Times and broader media outlets are the ones who generally rile up this kind of debate. ( Even this article is littered with misinformation – I didn’t think the minister for transport had a say in the Dublin airport passenger cap for example )
Personal attacks of politicians is nothing new, we all remember the Brian Cowan portraits, but with social media the amplification and rapid ways the attacks spread is incredible. Its funny, as Reddit itself here, often attacks certain politicians but it’s just ignored as they don’t have the “correct” political persuasion.
The vile threats and attacks have to stop.
That doesn’t mean you get a free pass to not be tackled for you shit policies though.
And that’s where the trouble lies.
I disagree fundamentally with pretty much everything Eamon stands for. His party is responsible for so much poor policies and have attacked the fabric of rural Irish society. Really his party hates rural Ireland and thinks we are all to stupid to understand.
What other party would celebrate tax increases? (Just look at any of their Dublin councillors social media from last week)
They’re a failed party who will get wiped out. And Eamon realises that he doesn’t want any part of that fallout.
I thought they wanted a chilling effect to prevent global warming?
They don’t want climate action, they want to be able to drive their Land Rover Cuntyman from their turf heated one off house in the middle of nowhere to their office job in the city, while also having services on par with those in denser cities, and they want those who live in the city to pay for it all.
To the cretins who have spent the past five years bleating about how Eamon Ryan hates rural Ireland, this is nothing but the sound of victory.
its sad to see this ammount of abuse ,
while i agree eamaon may not the charismatic politician , he did get lots of Green policys through the dail and on the books ,
I have no doubt that Eamonn Ryan has the best of intentions and he has had a positive impact on climate policy on this country. He is however his own worst enemy when it comes to PR, especially when it comes to discussions around rural areas,etc. He’s an idealist at heart and seems to believe that policies that can be implemented in urban areas can also be implemented in the countryside.
Abuse of politicians should never be tolerated however
This is bullshit. Any country’s minister has a bullet with his/her name on it because that’s what politics is about. Online “abuse” is inconsequential.
For the cap on passengers and for the lack of infrastructural development he deserved every bit of abuse he got. Green and Neo Liberalism together shows him up as the fraud and charlatan he is.
He pushed through green policies but all the parties have policies. He did a lot of very stupid things: hr cancelled a lot of projects in the national development plan, the Dublin metro that he oversaw will face significant planning and legal challenges due the route that was chosen. He really used terrible language when talking rural people (former hippie couple down the road hate him and if the greens are losing the former hippies then they a big problem). He is incredibly high minded about issues and doesn’t like dealing with lower level issues. I have had a bad opinion of him since seeing him on a prime time program about wind farms, he treated the audience members who were affected by wind farms with sheer and utter boredom. He was leader of Green Party then but not a TD, it made you miss politicians who have the ability to charm people or at least ones who read the brief.
Abuse of a politicians is wrong but you have to be able to criticise them and their policies.
Would be interesting to know how many people tut-tutting about others being mean online to Ryan thought it was funny when Farage got milkshaked.
He’s probably a nice fella but ever since he genuinely suggested villages in Ireland should just have 2 cars and everyone should share them (because it wouldn’t effect him in anyway), I can’t take anything the idiot says seriously.
Man ruined the place with unused bike lanes. Millions spent on shite that is growing weeds.
Lot of people in the comments excusing the personal abuse of a man doing his job, it’s a shame that we’ve got to this point. You can disagree with his policies and still afford him a very basic level of respect.
The criticism for Ryan is his falling asleep in the ‘dail’ (convention centre during lockdown)
He completely dropped the ball in getting ireland signed up for eu wide wind green energy! That was a MASSIVE omission for someone who purports to be ‘pro environment’
I would not mind a ‘snooze’ if he didn’t miss deadlines for green energy infrastructure ESPECIALLY when continuing fossil fuels is funding Russia war against Ukraine
We in the EU are STILL buying Liquid Nitrogen Gas from Russia!
I equally criticise other ministers for their failings also
Like Simon Harris Minister for Health ‘we solved all the other 18 previous covids!’
So it’s working then?
He gets too much credit, in reality he has failed on the main environmental issues. Since he’s been in office Irelands emissions are up year on year, water quality declining year on year, biodiversity declining year on year.
Eamon Ryan himself has had a chilling effect on climate action. I never thought he was a nasty person, not deserving of the level of abuse he got but people here are acting like this happened in a vaccuum. You had a party with less than 10% of seats in the dáil holding immense sway over people’s lives and acting like they were vox populi.
Ryan was horrifically out of touch with ordinary people. The man has a cupboard for putting waste in before it goes in the bin, fuckin’ hell. The carpooling stuff was bonkers for a start. But it was topped by the window boxes comment. Then he refused to lower the cost of public transport because it would increase the number of “unnecessary journeys” which was probably the rationale for not expanding it either. So he punishes people for using cars and then doesn’t provide them with an alternative? I guess people are just supposed to lay down on the floor in dark rooms when they aren’t at work.
This is coming from a man who travelled around the world in his younger days and probably has a carbon footprint vastly in excess of nearly every Irish person.
Speaking of travel, the fucking COP summit where he was prepared to fly home in the middle of it to vote in the dáil and then fly back to the UAE for the circlejerk of wealthy lawmakers who enforce change upon the peons beneath them. How on Earth did he not see that coming?
The delusion persisted until the end. Telling the media that the Greens could sit on every council in Ireland before the locals and that “the Kingdom was going green” had shades of Goebbels calling for Totaler Krieg and proved that he had absolutely no idea how unpopular he was.
The level of ignorance was astonishing and that was what drove much of the vitriol. You had people squeezed even more in this increasingly unequal country being told that it was for the greater good by a man sacrificing far less.
I wish him well in retirement, let that be the last of the flak he takes but I hope he never comes back to politics.
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Alternative headline: Going into bed with FFG, for the benefit of your own income and pension, has a chilling effect on climate action.
There was a lot of criticism aimed at Ryan due to his really poor PR skills. So many gaffes and just plain silly things he did during his time in the Dail. I don’t think cristism about this is out of order. But absolutely there was personal attacks on him. The likes of the Irish Times and broader media outlets are the ones who generally rile up this kind of debate. ( Even this article is littered with misinformation – I didn’t think the minister for transport had a say in the Dublin airport passenger cap for example )
Personal attacks of politicians is nothing new, we all remember the Brian Cowan portraits, but with social media the amplification and rapid ways the attacks spread is incredible. Its funny, as Reddit itself here, often attacks certain politicians but it’s just ignored as they don’t have the “correct” political persuasion.
The vile threats and attacks have to stop.
That doesn’t mean you get a free pass to not be tackled for you shit policies though.
And that’s where the trouble lies.
I disagree fundamentally with pretty much everything Eamon stands for. His party is responsible for so much poor policies and have attacked the fabric of rural Irish society. Really his party hates rural Ireland and thinks we are all to stupid to understand.
What other party would celebrate tax increases? (Just look at any of their Dublin councillors social media from last week)
They’re a failed party who will get wiped out. And Eamon realises that he doesn’t want any part of that fallout.
I thought they wanted a chilling effect to prevent global warming?
They don’t want climate action, they want to be able to drive their Land Rover Cuntyman from their turf heated one off house in the middle of nowhere to their office job in the city, while also having services on par with those in denser cities, and they want those who live in the city to pay for it all.
To the cretins who have spent the past five years bleating about how Eamon Ryan hates rural Ireland, this is nothing but the sound of victory.
its sad to see this ammount of abuse ,
while i agree eamaon may not the charismatic politician , he did get lots of Green policys through the dail and on the books ,
I have no doubt that Eamonn Ryan has the best of intentions and he has had a positive impact on climate policy on this country. He is however his own worst enemy when it comes to PR, especially when it comes to discussions around rural areas,etc. He’s an idealist at heart and seems to believe that policies that can be implemented in urban areas can also be implemented in the countryside.
Abuse of politicians should never be tolerated however
This is bullshit. Any country’s minister has a bullet with his/her name on it because that’s what politics is about. Online “abuse” is inconsequential.
For the cap on passengers and for the lack of infrastructural development he deserved every bit of abuse he got. Green and Neo Liberalism together shows him up as the fraud and charlatan he is.
He pushed through green policies but all the parties have policies. He did a lot of very stupid things: hr cancelled a lot of projects in the national development plan, the Dublin metro that he oversaw will face significant planning and legal challenges due the route that was chosen. He really used terrible language when talking rural people (former hippie couple down the road hate him and if the greens are losing the former hippies then they a big problem). He is incredibly high minded about issues and doesn’t like dealing with lower level issues. I have had a bad opinion of him since seeing him on a prime time program about wind farms, he treated the audience members who were affected by wind farms with sheer and utter boredom. He was leader of Green Party then but not a TD, it made you miss politicians who have the ability to charm people or at least ones who read the brief.
Abuse of a politicians is wrong but you have to be able to criticise them and their policies.
Would be interesting to know how many people tut-tutting about others being mean online to Ryan thought it was funny when Farage got milkshaked.
He’s probably a nice fella but ever since he genuinely suggested villages in Ireland should just have 2 cars and everyone should share them (because it wouldn’t effect him in anyway), I can’t take anything the idiot says seriously.
Man ruined the place with unused bike lanes. Millions spent on shite that is growing weeds.
Lot of people in the comments excusing the personal abuse of a man doing his job, it’s a shame that we’ve got to this point. You can disagree with his policies and still afford him a very basic level of respect.
The criticism for Ryan is his falling asleep in the ‘dail’ (convention centre during lockdown)
He completely dropped the ball in getting ireland signed up for eu wide wind green energy! That was a MASSIVE omission for someone who purports to be ‘pro environment’
Edit:
Link
https://www.thejournal.ie/necp-climate-plan-deadline-6095701-Jun2023/
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40961645.html
https://www.joe.ie/politics/eamon-ryan-appears-fall-asleep-dail-vote-woken-700211
https://www.thejournal.ie/eamon-ryan-green-party-leader-sleeping-dail-5154089-Jul2020/
I would not mind a ‘snooze’ if he didn’t miss deadlines for green energy infrastructure ESPECIALLY when continuing fossil fuels is funding Russia war against Ukraine
We in the EU are STILL buying Liquid Nitrogen Gas from Russia!
https://apnews.com/article/russia-eu-sanctions-ukraine-war-lng-gas-c56cf96fd7930a12044f36a36984607b
I equally criticise other ministers for their failings also
Like Simon Harris Minister for Health ‘we solved all the other 18 previous covids!’
So it’s working then?
He gets too much credit, in reality he has failed on the main environmental issues. Since he’s been in office Irelands emissions are up year on year, water quality declining year on year, biodiversity declining year on year.
Eamon Ryan himself has had a chilling effect on climate action. I never thought he was a nasty person, not deserving of the level of abuse he got but people here are acting like this happened in a vaccuum. You had a party with less than 10% of seats in the dáil holding immense sway over people’s lives and acting like they were vox populi.
Ryan was horrifically out of touch with ordinary people. The man has a cupboard for putting waste in before it goes in the bin, fuckin’ hell. The carpooling stuff was bonkers for a start. But it was topped by the window boxes comment. Then he refused to lower the cost of public transport because it would increase the number of “unnecessary journeys” which was probably the rationale for not expanding it either. So he punishes people for using cars and then doesn’t provide them with an alternative? I guess people are just supposed to lay down on the floor in dark rooms when they aren’t at work.
This is coming from a man who travelled around the world in his younger days and probably has a carbon footprint vastly in excess of nearly every Irish person.
Speaking of travel, the fucking COP summit where he was prepared to fly home in the middle of it to vote in the dáil and then fly back to the UAE for the circlejerk of wealthy lawmakers who enforce change upon the peons beneath them. How on Earth did he not see that coming?
The delusion persisted until the end. Telling the media that the Greens could sit on every council in Ireland before the locals and that “the Kingdom was going green” had shades of Goebbels calling for Totaler Krieg and proved that he had absolutely no idea how unpopular he was.
The level of ignorance was astonishing and that was what drove much of the vitriol. You had people squeezed even more in this increasingly unequal country being told that it was for the greater good by a man sacrificing far less.
I wish him well in retirement, let that be the last of the flak he takes but I hope he never comes back to politics.