Perhaps I’m being naïve, but I would’ve assumed that a criminal conviction (especially for a violent or drugs offence) would mean an automatic dismissal from the armed forces. But seems it ain’t so.
*Simon looks at list* “yeah, grand.”
*FF looks at the lads convicted of financial crime*
“Can we offer these guys a job?”
Some lads who may not have led the most perfect of lives join up to straighten themselves out.
Few bits about vetting and employment in Ireland.
Garda vetting = Guards provide a written report on your criminal history to prospective employer.
No offence rules you out for a job (that’d be unconstitutional).
Employer looks at Garda report and decides to employ or not.
Vetting is often used by employers as an excuse to not hire people (my hands are tied the guards won’t clear your vetting).
The Vetting Act makes vetting mandatory for people working with kids or adults who can’t mind themselves.
Vetting for the defence forces is same principle but not covered by the vetting act.
There’s also the spent convictions act where a small number of criminal convictions are effective wiped after a few years.
For people in a job a criminal conviction may be grounds for dismissal or not, up to the employer.
Not 100% on this but I think under the cJ Withholding Information Act employees must inform employer of a child abuse or vulnerable adult conviction.
Any one with info on child abuse, legally must report it.
I get that Irish people are put off by American worship of their military, but we’re close to becoming the polar opposite. The defence forces are a bit of a punching bag over here. I have family in the DF who avoid mentioning where they work because of the grief some people give them over it.
With the recent news, the DF have been painted as the bad guys, even though they had nothing to do with your man’s light sentence and even though they’re looking to dismiss him. Yes there are bullying problems in the DF, but the vast majority are hard working people who are just going to be subject to even more abuse now that this has become so deeply politicised.
A list of how many doesn’t make any sense
Remember when people were saying let’s give the scumbags a form of discipline and training in the reserves/defence forces as punishment for their crimes…..
We’ve gone a long way from judges giving the option of serving a prison sentence or enlist in the army.
One silver lining between all the fallout from the thankfully now-retired disgrace’s sentencing is that while the scumbag Cathal Crotty is likely going to be an absolutely pariah in the public eye for a while, after all this carry on he may well never get rid of that status in the armed forces.
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Perhaps I’m being naïve, but I would’ve assumed that a criminal conviction (especially for a violent or drugs offence) would mean an automatic dismissal from the armed forces. But seems it ain’t so.
*Simon looks at list* “yeah, grand.”
*FF looks at the lads convicted of financial crime*
“Can we offer these guys a job?”
Some lads who may not have led the most perfect of lives join up to straighten themselves out.
Few bits about vetting and employment in Ireland.
Garda vetting = Guards provide a written report on your criminal history to prospective employer.
No offence rules you out for a job (that’d be unconstitutional).
Employer looks at Garda report and decides to employ or not.
Vetting is often used by employers as an excuse to not hire people (my hands are tied the guards won’t clear your vetting).
The Vetting Act makes vetting mandatory for people working with kids or adults who can’t mind themselves.
Vetting for the defence forces is same principle but not covered by the vetting act.
There’s also the spent convictions act where a small number of criminal convictions are effective wiped after a few years.
For people in a job a criminal conviction may be grounds for dismissal or not, up to the employer.
Not 100% on this but I think under the cJ Withholding Information Act employees must inform employer of a child abuse or vulnerable adult conviction.
Any one with info on child abuse, legally must report it.
I get that Irish people are put off by American worship of their military, but we’re close to becoming the polar opposite. The defence forces are a bit of a punching bag over here. I have family in the DF who avoid mentioning where they work because of the grief some people give them over it.
With the recent news, the DF have been painted as the bad guys, even though they had nothing to do with your man’s light sentence and even though they’re looking to dismiss him. Yes there are bullying problems in the DF, but the vast majority are hard working people who are just going to be subject to even more abuse now that this has become so deeply politicised.
A list of how many doesn’t make any sense
Remember when people were saying let’s give the scumbags a form of discipline and training in the reserves/defence forces as punishment for their crimes…..
We’ve gone a long way from judges giving the option of serving a prison sentence or enlist in the army.
One silver lining between all the fallout from the thankfully now-retired disgrace’s sentencing is that while the scumbag Cathal Crotty is likely going to be an absolutely pariah in the public eye for a while, after all this carry on he may well never get rid of that status in the armed forces.