Disgraceful. Such an important issue should have been put to a referendum.
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More integration with the EU on this issue has to be a good thing at this point. More importantly immigration is not going away and will get worse as climate change takes hold in already tough places to live. Also worth remembering that someone who is fleeing the effects of climate change has a carbon footprint of very little compared to the average citizen in the country they are fleeing to.
I think this is such a mistake, and it really feels like we’re just being sold off to Brussels even more.
I posted my thoughts in another thread a week or two ago:
I think it’s a terrible idea for us to sign up to the entirety of the pact because as Michael McDowell states, we’re being signed up to achieve targets based on European demands. We could manage migration without many sections of the pact, but instead we’re signing up for our own ‘chase the carrot, or get the stick’ existence.
As McDowell briefly highlighted, Denmark and their centre-left government are a leading example of executing asylum and immigration management in Western society effectively and fairly. They have the same opt-out that we do as per Lisbon treaty; we could follow their path if we had politicians willing to do work, but instead we are being railroaded into a migration pact on-whole that will have large repercussions for the future of Ireland.
Not once did mainstream media journalists query McEntee or FFG leadership regarding Denmark’s position, it’s been completely left to McDowell and a handful others to highlight, much like the referendums; that in itself should alarm people – that our media don’t hold to account the politicians.
As Sinn Fein have been repeating, of the 7 or so sections of the pact, some are good, some are bad, we could’ve decided which sections to sign-up for rather than asking “How high?” when Europe says “Jump”.
Finally, Marc McSharry TD (formerly FF) spoke similarly excellently in opposition to the pact in the Dail, well worth a watch: [https://x.com/MarcMacsharryTD/status/1803585765655331315](https://x.com/MarcMacsharryTD/status/1803585765655331315)
Brace yourselves for a whole lot more “Let me be very clear, we have international obligations” from Helen McEntee and co.
Feels like this will be used by the government to explain doing nothing about immigration in a year or so. Just another way for them to push responsibility away from them
Shocker.
Good
Thank fuck.
People forget that we’ve got the most open border in the entire EU and there’s going to be storms of people coming through. We’ll need the support.
Can someone explain this like im 5?
How exactly does an EU pact have any effect on our border with a non EU country?Can’t wait for you to bend yourself into a pretzel explaining this.
Honest to Jaysus don’t like it, well best of luck getting gavan pepper to be taoiseach.
Sad news for the bigots, you’re in a minority
Sucks to be you
So we ceded control to the EU over managing migration to Ireland. Frankly, I’m struggling to see what we have lost here. The government has, in the past few months, been extremely useless, incompetent, and downright treacherous towards the Irish people when accommodating the waves of migrants illegally entering this country. How could EU bureaucrats possibly be any worse?
There’s no point in us having sovereignty over our immigration policy if our political establishment is too spineless to assert it. We may as well cede it to the EU who hopefully will do something.
Pretty much every eu regulation or law makes sense. Normalising chargers, GDPR, no chlorinated chicken, shed loads of money for public works, etc. Irish lawmakers have things like planning permission completely fucked and brown envelopes flying everywhere, the Direct Provisions system, the children’s hospital, builders fences up and down the canal.
Our government is consistently inept as long as I can remember. The more of the serious issues being managed in Brussels the better.
Glad to see this passed, some good measures in there.
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Disgraceful. Such an important issue should have been put to a referendum.
Link is 404
More integration with the EU on this issue has to be a good thing at this point. More importantly immigration is not going away and will get worse as climate change takes hold in already tough places to live. Also worth remembering that someone who is fleeing the effects of climate change has a carbon footprint of very little compared to the average citizen in the country they are fleeing to.
I think this is such a mistake, and it really feels like we’re just being sold off to Brussels even more.
I posted my thoughts in another thread a week or two ago:
I think it’s a terrible idea for us to sign up to the entirety of the pact because as Michael McDowell states, we’re being signed up to achieve targets based on European demands. We could manage migration without many sections of the pact, but instead we’re signing up for our own ‘chase the carrot, or get the stick’ existence.
As McDowell briefly highlighted, Denmark and their centre-left government are a leading example of executing asylum and immigration management in Western society effectively and fairly. They have the same opt-out that we do as per Lisbon treaty; we could follow their path if we had politicians willing to do work, but instead we are being railroaded into a migration pact on-whole that will have large repercussions for the future of Ireland.
Not once did mainstream media journalists query McEntee or FFG leadership regarding Denmark’s position, it’s been completely left to McDowell and a handful others to highlight, much like the referendums; that in itself should alarm people – that our media don’t hold to account the politicians.
As Sinn Fein have been repeating, of the 7 or so sections of the pact, some are good, some are bad, we could’ve decided which sections to sign-up for rather than asking “How high?” when Europe says “Jump”.
Finally, Marc McSharry TD (formerly FF) spoke similarly excellently in opposition to the pact in the Dail, well worth a watch: [https://x.com/MarcMacsharryTD/status/1803585765655331315](https://x.com/MarcMacsharryTD/status/1803585765655331315)
Brace yourselves for a whole lot more “Let me be very clear, we have international obligations” from Helen McEntee and co.
Feels like this will be used by the government to explain doing nothing about immigration in a year or so. Just another way for them to push responsibility away from them
Shocker.
Good
Thank fuck.
People forget that we’ve got the most open border in the entire EU and there’s going to be storms of people coming through. We’ll need the support.
Can someone explain this like im 5?
How exactly does an EU pact have any effect on our border with a non EU country?Can’t wait for you to bend yourself into a pretzel explaining this.
Honest to Jaysus don’t like it, well best of luck getting gavan pepper to be taoiseach.
Sad news for the bigots, you’re in a minority
Sucks to be you
So we ceded control to the EU over managing migration to Ireland. Frankly, I’m struggling to see what we have lost here. The government has, in the past few months, been extremely useless, incompetent, and downright treacherous towards the Irish people when accommodating the waves of migrants illegally entering this country. How could EU bureaucrats possibly be any worse?
There’s no point in us having sovereignty over our immigration policy if our political establishment is too spineless to assert it. We may as well cede it to the EU who hopefully will do something.
Pretty much every eu regulation or law makes sense. Normalising chargers, GDPR, no chlorinated chicken, shed loads of money for public works, etc. Irish lawmakers have things like planning permission completely fucked and brown envelopes flying everywhere, the Direct Provisions system, the children’s hospital, builders fences up and down the canal.
Our government is consistently inept as long as I can remember. The more of the serious issues being managed in Brussels the better.
Glad to see this passed, some good measures in there.