Why Putin’s troops failed to press the advantage in his Kharkiv push | Maj. Gen. Rupert Jones
you know it it started to feel a little bit gloomy you back into 23 early into into 24 as the Ukrainian Advantage you know they they throughout 23 although they weren’t making decisive gains it still felt as they just about had the advantage they were making most of the of the plays if if you like and slowly that Ed away and the Russians started to make make some moves and it felt as though they might just slowly almost overwhelm the ukrainians through attrition just slowly bludging the way way forward they haven’t been able to do that so why well firstly because the ukrainians contined to be exceedingly resilient Defenders they just absorb this stuff they’re defending very well they’re making an absolute art of you know the limited resources they’ve got that that’s thing one thing two that the Russian military throughout the the hierarchy are simply not good enough so you know there soldiers on the ground poorly trained low morale poor discipline and they know that they their their chance of survival as individuals are very very low so their fighting Pras down on the battlefield is extremely low that that continues to be the case but what they have also failed to do throughout the war is to really bring smart plays you think of an American football team you know often it’s about I’m no expert it’s often about the the quality of the plays the moves they Deploy on the field Russia has had no plays all it has been able to D dout throughout the war really from you know the end of month one when the war started the initial front line started to stabilize is to bludgeon the ukrainians suffer enormous attrition in doing so use huge amounts of artillery but try and just bludgeon their way forward they don’t they don’t appear to have and they have not appeared to have any kind of really smart moves in their pocket so when when the attack came in h h in in the north whenever that was in in May the thinking was you know the analysts were saying I think quite rightly that what the Russians will be trying to do is open up up a new front in the north so you then draw ukrainians reserves to defend in the north and having pulled the reserves you then attack attack elsewhere it’s a fairly it’s a fairly classic military play you try and get the defender moving in lots of different directions to to block and then somewhere along the line the attacker finds a point of weakness and and they go through and you overwhelm their their defenses a a good Ploy fairly fairly fairly stand it’s quite hard to defend against the Russians have simply not managed to do that so so the kind of the the full up attacks just haven’t really come so you know in a situation now where the offensive seems to I mean it hardly took any ground in in real terms and the ukrainians now seem to kind of be slowly pushing them back so go back to your original question lack of lack of command quality right at the top all way through to just poor soldiers on the ground who’s who’s who aren’t good enough and whose heart isn’t in the fight well that brings us on I suppose to to what Ukraine could do to take advantage of the situation and potentially launch a counter offensive I mean first of all there’s the question of of when most people seem to think we’re looking at 2025 until there’s a realistic counter offensive do you agree with that yeah I mean you know I I always say with these things you know we none of us commentators have any inside uh track the ukrainians very wisely have tended to be quite um cautious in what they’ve shared with the public when they have shared it uh sensibly it hasn’t always been you know the the facts they’ve been they’ve been using information and disinformation because they want they want surprise on on the battlefield so so we’re speculating we’re trying to join dots but the dots would suggest that 2025 you know spring of 2025 would seem sensible because we know what happened in 2023 I’ve already discussed it uh today about how you know when they didn’t get the resources from Western Nations until too late they weren’t able to put pull it together into into the full Orchestra of War I think the lesson they will have learned is that we’ve got to get all this Aid we’ve got to get ourselves in in really good order absorb you know what Russia can throw at us through 2024 and then go in 2025 you know they don’t appear to be on the cusper ending now you know we in the height of Summer there’s still you know you know multiple months left of if you like of of good weather but it would feel as though that they’re not losing um significant train in 2024 so it doesn’t feel as that they’re under huge um operational pressure to make an early move so I would have thought they will hold till 2025 you know again there’s a bit of politics bit of global politics us election and other things webly might come back to you what other you know politicians are saying outside of Ukraine potentially unhelpfully but it feels as though they they’ve got a little bit of time on the hand so you know based on what I know 2025 seem seems a reasonable bet at this stage and of course I just wanted to ask you Ruben about some interesting reports I The Institute for the study of War saying that the Kremlin is continuing efforts to recruit former Vagner mercenaries uh is passing a new bill apparently that’s going to exempt many of those involved in the attempted Mutiny of of last year and and and you know when when you think about that it does beg the question is is that a sign of Putin’s desperation that he’s having to recruit people who a year ago were working towards overthrowing him yeah I mean I I think absolutely what was it June 24th so you we’re a year and two days after Ban’s um uh failed march on Moscow um and yeah I mean I think it ABS is a sign of desperation but we’ve seen see those signs of desperation all over so you know uh we know he short of Fighters to be fair to prosan the Vagner Fighters were you know more effective than than many others so you can see why Putin would want to bring those into the fold Putin is in a in a desperate position you know the international criminal court has just brought um uh warrants against his old defense minister and his old uh chief chief defense the EU continu bring bring sanctions you know things are not going well for Putin in in real terms and so I think all these things are a sign of desperation the fact he’s coing up to nor nor Korea you know doesn’t exactly uh bode well for you know where where where Putin is in the greatest scheme of things the fact that you know the attack uh in dagistan three days ago you know he tries to blame on on Ukraine and Nate I mean you know it it’s it would appear to be the the rantings of a lunatic except of course it’s not you know it’s very deliberate plays it’s very deliberate misinformation that in this Global era of you know digital news you the news is omnipresent anybody can kind of make the news a sizable minority will believe those sort of conspiracies that it’s not is uh who who did this that it is somehow it’s Ukraine it’s it’s NATO it plays into this farage type comments of NATO provoking you it’s all of that kind of conspiracy based um version of news how would you assess Putin’s position domestically internally within Russia I mean just thinking back to that Mutiny as you say literally just over a year ago there was a lot of speculation that that he could be sort of teetering in his position in the Kremlin since then of course he appears to have stabilized things Russia has have made some advances on the ground he won quote unquote his reelection earlier this year are we maybe guilty of assuming he is he is more secure than he is in his position yeah so hard to tell isn’t it um you know one would hope that that intelligence agencies have a better in inside track though penetrating you know Putin’s Inner Circle to really understand what’s going on is has always been hard and I assume you know you know so so it’s it’s hard to know and again we and you know media commentators were spec culating and trying to kind of read signals but it does feel as though uh he is more secure than he was a year ago um even at the time of you know pran’s uh Uprising you know most people were saying slightly careful what you wish for because if Putin did fall you know what would happen internally in Moscow who would take his place would there be some kind of you know internal blood letting um so you know caution uh is he certainly appears to be more secure than he was but it’s very hard very hard to tell um you know he’s he’s got rid of two of his great laal lists as I mentioned earlier um shyu and gasimov his defense minister Chief defense they they’ve gone um but but he’s but he’s a great Survivor isn’t he um so I you know given UK current political um betting scandals I I should sure wouldn’t be betting on on Putin going or or staying thank you for watching Frontline for times radio for more 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I would like to hear what general Jones considers victory. Maybe he should read about the last two years of WW2. He knows nothing about the Russians way of war. If they are quoting the ISW you’re losing.
Thks but I would strongly suggest your general check-out Putler's Horrific Russia/Chechen War:
The Chechen War's Unforgivable Crimes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWj2O6g6p5w
This is what psycopath Adorf Putler tried to do to Ukraine & would have eventually to naive europe.
Putin's re-election was down to making the Russian people an offer they couldn't refuse.
Putin will have plenty of soldiers when the north Koreans get there and the west is full of cowards who still wont send troops in.
Times Radio continues to do a disservice to factual reporting but not to the propaganda war it is part of. It is embarrassing to listen to a high-ranking military officer trumpet the nonsense that presumably he feels obliged to say. The Major General is so convincing that ″anybody would think that Ukraine is not losing the war‶. If he were to square up against Professor Jeffrey Sachs for example he would be demolished. Let us be clear, Ukraine does not have time on its side: barring an economic collapse or other major event Ukraine is done for. That is the hard reality. Every day Russia gets stronger and Ukraine gets weaker. The former head of the Ukrainian Armed forces said as much: Ukraine has to win fast. That chance, if it ever existed, has gone. Does anybody know the demographic situation in Ukraine now: how the population has shrunk through people fleeing the country and how there is a desperate shortage of males in the cities. The fate of Ukraine is absolutely tragic and the propaganda being pumped out by the West is making the situation worse. Why does the Major General seek to belittle the fighting qualities of the Russian soldier. The Russians are like the Ukrainians, tenacious fighters. In another world they would be brothers. To say that Ukraine might launch a new offensive in 2025 is ignoring the facts. Before the counteroffensive of 2023 the West supplied Ukraine with a massive amount of weaponry but even then the Ukrainians could not overwhelm the Russians in the counteroffensive. The Ukrainians are constantly demanding/requesting more weapons from the West but the West's arsenals are sorely depleted. Worse still the Russians out-produce the West in weapons and that situation will take years to rectify. The Major General demeans the Russian Army by suggesting that the ground forces bludgeon there way through without any military competence. It is the other side that has lacked military competence by refusing to carry out tactical withdrawals until it is too late. The Major General's assessment of Kharkiv is floored: the Russians have forced Ukrainian troop movements north leaving them vulnerable to air attack. It is the same air superiority that has destroyed much of Ukraine's non-nuclear electric power generation facilities leaving Ukraine with the prospect of blanket blackouts over the winter months. Since the rebellion of the Wagner group under Prigozhin they have been incorporated into the Russian Army and took part in the ″liberation‶ of Avdiivka and were commended by the Russian President for the part they played. Unless Wikipedia is incorrect General Gerasimov is still Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces and Sergei Shoigu, the former Minister of Defence of Russia is currently Secretary of the Security Council of Russia. They have not been sacked. With the dreadful casualty rate experienced by the Ukrainian Army it is very hard to see how morale can be high especially amongst those recently ″press ganged‶ into service. The latest weapons introduced on the battlefield by Russia, a highly capable technological nation, are truly terrifying. I speak of for example the FAB 3000 glide bombs and the TOS-2 which launches rockets using thermobaric warheads. Because time is on their side the Russians can proceed cautiously and save lies. If the sanctions were going well the Russian economy would have collapsed by now. The problem is that nothing is going right for the West. Russia under Vladimir Putin has/is forging important links and alliances with North Korea, China, India, Iran and other countries besides. That may be an unpalatable fact but it is a sign of Russian strength not weakness that these agreements are being made. The Russians are advancing along the entire battle line and they have not been forced to retreat in the Kharkiv oblast; the Ukrainians are still to mount a full-blooded offensive there. Nigel Farage appears to be one of very few public figures that have been prepared to speak up publicly and say that the war was provoked by the West. Worse than that it was orchestrated by the Americans. Russia was never going to let NATO install nuclear weapons in Ukraine pointing at them. Can anybody be bothered to see matters from the other sides point of view or are we all that limited in scope.
Interesting and balanced. Thank you.
Well, Putin replaced Choigu with an economist – not another military man – that shows he knows where the threat might come from..
Putin make so much failures that Ukraine is losing the war.
This isn't 3 hours old it's yesterday's content.
Excellent discussion. God bless the people of Ukraine.
Oooh shovels again. Here we go. Can you tell me what happened to Ukraine 2023 big offensive after the west unprecedented military aid? Asking for a friend lol
Why is it that commentators seemed so surprised as Russia continues to fail, and it is only getting worse. What happened to Russian armor?
Well, most of it has been blown away, think they have a chance with meat wave attacks. Think again.
This expert was very informative and thoughtful in his analysis. Much better than a previous expert of yours recently who laughably believed that one call from China, and Russia will stop the War immediately… because…China…said so. And this man wasn’t joking??? Probably the most uninformed thing Anyone on earth has said about The Invasion.
Another repeat
Fake news limey style !
Comrade Putin shall preserve
Great analysis
They were not pushing to Kharkiv,they were on purpose only going to the river line to make Ukrainian artillery out of range of their cities and too spread out Ukrainian forces so they have more of a advantage in the Donbass
Putin failure is always the same, send a lot of men and win?😵💫
It really the human factor. Russia allready lost most of its high ranking offciers in prevoius years.
You cant just subsitute someone with a differnt backround and expect them to know what they are doing.
If the Russians lose why do they take territoryes every day 😂 Very strange
Russia 🇷🇺 is great and strong.
Dumb much? Russia pushed until the newest batch of weapons started arriving in Ukraine, then dug in. You people have absolutely no idea when it comes to tactics. Now, the ukes will go on the attack and lose around 30,000 more troops.
"One would hope intelligence agencies have a better inside track" on Putin. Intelligence agencies thought Ukraine would fall in a matter of days after a Russian invasion. They don't seem to have an inside track on anything.
High Russian military leadership isn't making any intelligent "plays", because the creation of a multistep plan would put the creator of it in the spotlight and on the hook for its success for failure. Surviors in the Kremlin know better than to announce plans.
Battle of the Bulges and hosting teenage soldiers ww3 memories.
What a ridiculous special operations decision by Russian military countless lives lost ,pain and suffering,only to drive Ukraine and other eastern countries toward Nato and more suitable partners!
Fools rush in!
Thanks for uptodate on the war.
The Russians couldn't attack on other parts of the front, because the needed their most motivated and effective troops in the Kherson sectors as well, in the second line, to prevent mass desertion.
It's part of Russian history, that its tyrants are very secure in their position… until they're suddenly not. Regime Change in Russia is always hard to predict. And when it comes afterall, it comes very sudden.
1. Russian military is badly led, poorly trained, low morale, losing etc. etc. etc.
2. Russia is powerful and dangerous and could conquer Europe.
Delusional schizophrenia, day in day out.