Hungarian PM’s office demands recognition of all of Ukraine’s Zakarpattia as “traditionally Hungarian”

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1. And I demand the recognition of Hungarys uselessness in both EU and NATO and demand an investigation to block their access to all the above offers and gives them so that they can return to their imperialistic Masters.

2. Give Hungary a bit of their own medicine. Agree to it all. Couple of years later, just amend the laws back again after having obtained EU membership, if it didn’t bring anything positive with it.

3. Oh boy, here we go again.

4. Europe needs to go to war and fight over territories because it hasn’t done that enough. /s

5. And I want former Prussia and Elsass Lothringen back but I guess we can’t always have what we want can’t we?

6. Lol, how about no ?

   But also, didn’t Hungarians arrive later than the Slavs ?

7. Putin Lite… now in a country near you

8. As soon as Hungary admits that they illegally occupy Panonia, Roman lands

9. Russia: Claims that Ukraine is historically a part of Russia. Calls Ukrainian government illegitimate. Attacks Ukraine.
   Hungary: “War is bad! But also, can you claim part of your territory as a historical part of Hungary?”

10. Hungary being the 3rd highest EU beneficiary, Orban sure has many demands…

11. I’d like a recognition of all of Baranja as traditionally Croatian, thanks.

12. > Among the 11 demands of Hungary regarding the protection of the rights of national minorities, a key stumbling block is the designation of areas in Ukraine with a special level of guarantees for the rights of Hungarians. In particular, this refers to the country’s westernmost Zakarpattia Oblast, where, according to the 2001 census and previous years, the proportion of Hungarians was over 10%.

    >Details: This provision is also in the current legislation of Ukraine: it refers to cities and villages with a “significant number” of minority representatives (starting from 15%) and with “traditional” minority residence (from 10% over the last 100 years).

    >However, this was not enough for Budapest, and they began to demand that all settlements in Zakarpattia be automatically recognised as “traditionally Hungarian” – even those where Hungarians have never lived historically.

    >The Orbán government demands the abolition of the 10% norm in principle, claiming that if even a small number lived in an area traditionally, then it is to be considered “Hungarian” territory.

    >Hungary also demands that Ukraine abandon the decision-making process conducted by local councils in this regard and make the assignment of the “historically Hungarian” status automatic.

    >The government in Budapest insists that only the 2001 census should be used for that purpose, although the number of Hungarians living in Zakarpattia has almost halved since then.

    >The key point is that the Orbán government explicitly calls this block decisive for the entire set of 11 demands. This is because Orbán sees that the share of the Hungarian population in Zakarpattia has fallen below 10%. Now Budapest sees a chance to use a historical opportunity and blackmail Ukraine into reminding these people of their Hungarian descent.

13. Interesting claim coming from a traditionally Austrian country…

14. Why are we arguing? We’re all under the legitimate ownership of the Roman Empire.

15. > according to the 2001 census and previous years, the proportion of Hungarians was over 10%.

    > ..

    > not enough for Budapest, and they began to demand that all settlements in Zakarpattia be automatically recognised as “traditionally Hungarian” – even those where Hungarians have never lived historically.

    > The Orbán government demands the abolition of the 10% norm in principle, claiming that if even a small number lived in an area traditionally, then it is to be considered “Hungarian” territory.

    > ..

    > The government in Budapest insists that only the 2001 census should be used for that purpose, although the number of Hungarians living in Zakarpattia has almost halved since then.

    Orban has more or less the same irredentist and revanchist dreams about an empire like Putin. He just doesn’t has the means to put his dream in practice.

16. All of Hungary is “traditionally Austrian” too, they gotta pipe down and stop crying about Trianon

17. How about we recognize Hungary as “traditionally Austrian”?

18. When Trianon 2, it’s all rightful Mongolian clay.

19. Is that what Putin promised Orban?

    Why the fuck would you want more land in this age…

20. Not even Hungary is traditionally Hungarian lmao

21. >Hungarian PM’s office demands recognition of all of Ukraine’s Zakarpattia as “traditionally Hungarian”

    Here we go…

22. Isn’t Hungary traditionally Austrian then?

23. Ahhh small putin showing his real face……

24. Hungary again plays on the wrong side. The lessons of the world wars taught the revanchists and local fascists nothing.

25. Austria: Go ahead, set the precedent.

26. Following this mental gymnastics, us Poland and Lithuania demand to recognise Latvia, Belarus, most of Ukraine, southern half of Estonia, parts of Russia, Slovakia and Maldova as ”traditionally ours”. Do not question our rationale, it is totally legit reasoning to claim ownership of the lands owned 200 years ago.

27. I, as a Hungarian, am hoping the Ottomans don’t have such ambitions.

28. As a Hungarian I’d say giving Zakarpattia to Ukraine (Soviet Union) was a historical injustice and completely unwarranted given that it belonged to Czechoslovakia before the war (which was also the victim of nazi agression), but returning it (at least parts of it) to Hungary during the war was completely justified ethnically. But after that, population exchange programs and deportations made sure to mess up the nationality ratios, not in Hungary’s favor.

    This being said it’s hard to argue that we have anything to do with it any more. With Orban’s dual nationality policy and the breakout of the war, the region’s population’s share of Hungarians must have dipped well below 10%, whoever was able and willing leaving the region for Hungary. All this posturing is nothing more than Orban’s irredentist stupidity mixed with internal politics bravado to appeal to a certain demographics.

    I think we should have supported Ukraine with everything we have and asked some concessions and rights for our minorities as returning the favor instead of blackmailing them to do so. Orban fucked the region and its population on a historical scale. Hungary should have absolutely no claims on the region anymore, what’s done is done.

    Slava Ukraini and I hope General Cholesterol will do its job on our PM.

29. Hungary really doing its best for the entire EU to simply despise them for some reason lol

30. Hungary is just a wayward Austrian province

31. Sorry Hungary, but only Central Asia should be considered “traditionally Hungarian”

32. Mask off moment. This has been their playbook all along.

    We all know why he went to Moscow on the eve of the invasion, and why the Hungarian army was massed on the border.

33. Hungarian PM’s office demands that Orban be titled GLOAT (Greatest Leader of All Time).

34. I guess all of Hungary is traditional austrian territory by the same logic

35. Might as well demand the earth is flat and the sun is a clump of ice…

36. If this recognition goes through (let’s just pretend), wouldn’t it mean that they’re trying to fuck over their own countrymen since Hungary is constantly trying to block financial aid to Ukraine?

37. Chiar? Citezi Pravda mai? Nu ți rușine ca te vede maică -ta? Păi vrei să vină rușii peste ea mai Ionele măi?

38. Sounds like Orban is looking for any reason to start something with Ukraine so him bowing to Putin has more legitimacy

39. I hope Orban falls down a really long flight of stairs. Fucking cunt.

40. just the usual r/europe arcticle with a ragebait title where the normies can say OrBaN bad while foamin at the mouth.

41. Lol.

42. This is just a political stunt. Orbán gave impossible demands, so they will be refused and he can say to his voters “The EU and Ukraine is anti-hungarian again”

43. motherfucker straight up undermines stability of war torn country, such law will strengthen any russia claims for “historical” territories and that’s why this law was reverted in first place after 2014. it can be done after war when ukraine not this vulnerable but now it’s real dick move. fuck this trash orban

44. Drop dead, Hungary.

45. It was the Austrians that civilized that land