America Lost the First Biden-Trump Debate

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/america-lost-first-biden-trump-debate-1235048539/

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  1. Yes agreed. Trump is a danger and Biden is aging out fast.

  3. In the choice between an old man who surrounds himself with better people and an authoritarian liar who would see democracy undone, I’ll choose the old man every time.

  4. Democrats and Republicans proudly displaying the two BEST people for the job. We are so fucked.

  5. I gotta say something and take this as you well…Biden’s job is to run the country not preform well in a debate at 9pm when his opponent has nothing meaningful to bring to the table. At the end of the day I want the guy who believes in upholidng our NATO obligations over the conspiracy theorist. I know all the news stations keep saying the dems are scared…but…I am a swing voter and Trump made no case for himself or his party, all I heard was him complaining and accusing and he could not answer any question he was asked. Biden did a horrid job, but, he did answer the questions

  6. Probably the only debate we get. Trump did what he set out to do, so now he’ll just crow about how he destroyed Joe Biden and never agree to another debate. Maybe that’s the silver lining to this shit show… maybe we finally move away from this useless “debate” format. If we want to put candidates side by side for contrast, we need to just have back to back town halls with each individual candidate, with moderators who will ask pointed questions and follow up. How is any of this a reliable measure for who can be a good president? “Can he look good? Can he stay on message in two-minute increments? Did he cough a lot?”

    I’m not making excuses for Biden; he failed in every possible way last night and he blew a major opportunity. But now more than ever, it feels incredibly dumb to use hyped debates like this one as a primary means of pushing a message.

  9. It is like a seesaw. When trump is up, America is down.

  10. Governor Whitmer should be the DNC nominee. Biden will not beat Trump sadly. 

  11. “The debate continued, of course. And, in fairness, Biden slowly picked himself up off the mat and began to steady his performance. Fortunately for Biden, Donald Trump was not landing haymakers. In fact, the 45th president repeatedly exposed his own weak chin, digressing — if more energetically than Biden — into bouts of verbal diarrhea, as when he said of Biden: “He’s become like a Palestinian. But they don’t like him because he’s a very bad Palestinian.” Or when he alleged of Biden, nonsensically: “He’s the one to kill people with the bad water including hundreds of thousands of people dying.” Trump, also flashed menace, pushing dark lies about Democrats seeking to murder babies “after birth,” while making bizarre claims about his environmental record: “We had H2O, we had the best numbers ever.”

  12. DNC handing our democracy to a would-be dictator with this debate.

  13. Why is everyone just now realizing that the election would shape up just like this? A sore loser who can’t walk away and an old fuck who should also go home.

  14. Had to turn it off after 20 minutes. One rambling vs one lying. Not a good look for either.

  15. This is a multifaceted problem.

    The president has WAY too much power. The fate of our country can’t be in the hands of a single person.

    Two party system allows for far too much gaming of the system.

    The job of President itself is so terrible that no one worth a damn wants to do it. The dozen or so people who keep running for President are like twisted inbred creatures who have been in the gross political cesspool too long.

    The DNC and RNC are too powerful and take away much of the people’s power to choose.

    The electoral college needs reformed. We’ll never live to see it abolished so it needs reformed for modern America.

    Also Citizens United needs massive reforms.

  16. Kind of seems like the Democrats are handing the election to a fascist convicted felon who can’t even visit most of our allies because of it.

  17. The weirdest part of all this is how many political pundits appear shocked by how poorly Biden performed and are just now scrambling and wondering if he needs to be replaced. He has been a rambling old man for years. Why are they just now noticing?

  19. Then the SC ended the Federal Governments ability to function while we were distracted.

  20. The greatest threat to democracy in America, and the DNC chooses to run a geriatric as opposition. Shame on them.

  21. It’s a debate. Donald farts around all day while Biden at 81 has been running the country and pretty well I might add. I’m tired at 10:30
    too and i’m 45.

  22. I really liked the time biden was talking about veterans because trump actually has done nothing for them and Biden has a son who was a veteran, and you just felt the heartstrings be struck for him and slammed trump.

    Walking corpse be damned, has a heart

  23. Not an American, but as a citizen of an allied country that depends on the US for stability, security and leadership, it’s terrifying on whats to come from a 2nd trump adminstration along with project 2025.

    I don’t think enough Americans understand that the impact the US has the rest of the world. Imagine watching your neighbor’s house burning down and knowing the flame will spread to your own house and there is not a god damn thing you can do about it.

  24. Absolutely heartbreaking to watch. Trump clearly has no plans or ideas and just wants rattle off his regular list of grievances. Biden is too old for this and is going to RBG this whole thing.

  25. This blows, however, id pick the guy who surrounds himself with people smarter and better looking than himself over the guy who calls veterans and soldiers suckers and losers and made fun of a pow, and gave important jobs to his family. Also, one of these two didnt do jan 6th and is not a felon/surrounded by felons, also one of these guys is in a stable marriage where the other was found to fuck a porn star while married. The shitty part is this isnt even the tip of the shit berg

  27. CNN focus group went 7 to Biden, 6 to Trump and 1 unsure. Univision focus group went unanimously to Biden. I don’t understand all the dooming.

  28. Always vote AGAINST a fascist, even if the only alternative is a wet paper bag. Then give the DNC absolute hell for running a wet paper bag.

  29. I looked at my wife and she took the words out of my mouth. “We are fucked.”

  30. The Democratic Party should really have spent the last couple years building up a potential backup candidate. Getting the publicity and making them present and visible at big events. Hopefully Trumps image is tarnished enough but this should have been planned.

  31. Fuck the gloom amd doom clickbait headlines. I’m voting for Biden.

  32. “I know I’m not a young man, to the state the obvious. Well, I know I don’t walk as easy as I used to, I don’t speak as smoothly as I used to, I don’t debate as well as I used to, but I know what I do know. I know how to tell the truth,” the president said.
    I know right from wrong. I know how to do this job. I know how to get things done. I know, like millions of Americans, I know, when you get knocked down, you get back up. Folks, I give you my word as a Biden, I would not be running again if I didn’t believe with all my heart and soul I can do this job. Because, quite frankly, the stakes are too high.

    I’m with him

  35. Why the hell do we have these guys? How has it come this? This can’t be the best we have.

  37. The doom and bloom on this board after last night plays exactly into the hands that the GOP wants. This isn’t 1960 where we are seeing a TV debate for the first time, and looks matter. Biden had a cold. Who gives a shit? That invalidates all of his achievements, and the fact that he’s 10000000% the better choice than Trump? Why would that debate worry anyone? Biden woke up this morning, and went back to work fixing this country. The idea that he needs to suddenly drop out of this is worrisome is beyond insane.

    As this article points out, it helpfully detracts from the ACTUALLY worrisome shit Trump said, and his lies. Didn’t have sex with a porn star? What are “black jobs”? WTF was he talking about with the environmental record? Why couldn’t he stay on topic?

    These are real things to worry about.

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