CNN Slammed for Letting Trump Lie Through Entire Debate

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  3. It isnt their job to live fact check. That’s Biden job being the other debate participant.

  4. After the debate, someone on the CBS panel said that the Dems agreed to no live-fact-check. Hard to believe given their opponent is addicted to lying.

  5. What is CNN supposed to do? Trump lies constantly, they can’t keep halting the debate to fact check. Biden as the opponent should be calling out his bullshit.

  6. I’m repeating myself, but: And, Jake Tapper was USELESS!!!

  7. Slammed by who? …by people already voting for Biden to make themselves feel better.

    I love Biden. I’ve watched every major speech and every debate he’s been in during the past 15 years. He’s one of my heroes. This is on him and his team. They were fully aware (or should have been) that they weren’t gonna be able to count on the moderators to call out lies. Look no further than what happened to Candy Crowley in 2008.

    The deflections and excuses and finger-pointing from liberals is not helpful. This is not the time to make ourselves feel better.

    You want to help Biden? Have uncomfortable conversations with your minimally-engaged friends, family members, and neighbors about the stakes in November. That’s how we win this.

  9. I’ve been reading “slamming” articles since 2015. They mean nothing. They are what lead us to this.

  10. So it’s not like these were nuanced, hard to detect lies that require research and analysis. Biden absolutely should have called Trump out for saying that states allow post-birth abortions or that Nancy Pelosi took responsibility for January 6. Yes, it’s insane that Trump said these things but what’s crazier is Biden largely let him get away with it on a national stage.

  11. I’m so fucking tired of reading about people and organizations being “slammed.” When did journos decide that this was their favorite word? I don’t know why this style of headline gets under my skin so much. It’s somehow too casual and completely melodramatic at the same time.

  12. At least keep him on topic. The whole thing was a disaster.

  13. The damage control to correct the lies is monumental! How many ads do you need to run?

  14. It would be ideal to have live fact checking scrolling on the bottom for both candidates w/o having to interrupt the debate. The networks up till the present haven’t. Why, I don’t know.

    I was always under the impression the Press was responsible to inform the public in a Democracy. What better way than to fact check POTUS candidates in real time and have a more informed public?

    Hell, they have Peyton and Eli watching football in real time. Why can’t two other top level anchors watch a debate and comment/fact check in real time? Are they telling us NFL football is more important than who we elect POTUS?

  15. I’m more upset that Biden didn’t push back enough. There were easy quick responses to every time he mentioned inflation. They call it “Biden’s inflation” to hide the fact that every developed nation dealt with it. Trump wasn’t going to magically avoid it. But nobody ever comes back with that simple fact.

  16. The gop strategy was to accuse the moderators of bias all week and sway them from interfering. I hoped they wouldn’t fall
    For it but it’s CNN and they are a bunch of cowards

  18. Trump declared his fealty to despots and his disdain for America. So on that note we heard him loud and clear.

  19. They never planned on moderating.

    They are fixated on Ratings. The more viewers the better. That means allowing it to be a shitshow.

  20. It’s a lot more than just letting Trump lie to be clear.

    I am done with CNN after that.

    They lied to us about the fact checks and the aftershow was a complete abomination of the truth. They lost all credibility. Apparently lies all over CNN are totally cool now.

  21. PBS was giving a live time fact check, but I think they gave up because they couldn’t keep up!

  22. I used to enjoy Jake Tapper, but lately he’s been shitting the bed habitually.

  23. Get the Boebert moderator. He challenged everyone on anything he knew was false. He demanded non pandering answers. I’m not sure if I’ve even seen a moderator own his debate more than that. He actually might have helped her win the primary. He was equally tough on all candidates.

  24. Just get this guy Kyle Clark from Colorado. He did an excellent job moderating the CO GOP debate talk about must watch tv

  25. You know who also let Trump lie the entire debate? Biden. We are sleep walking to disaster

  26. I stopped watching when Trump was talking about post-birth abortions and other than Biden saying that Trump was lying, there wasn’t any repercussions to his blatant lies and now given an even larger stage to tell them. I couldn’t take anymore.

  27. They should have had bubbles on screen to fact-check them. Like the old VH1 Pop-up Video

  28. They let him lie through the entire debate so they could call out the lies for the next two weeks, raking in ratings cash in the process.

  29. Isn’t it obvious Trump is lying though?
    Like, if it’s not obvious to someone he’s a lying narcissist, then that person is already brain-rotted beyond help. Anyone pointing out his lies is ‘fake news’ or ‘deep state’ or whatever.

  30. Yes they were terrible. When you ask a question and Trump doesn’t even answer it and instead talks about immigration or whatever, you cut his mic and interrupt him immediately. Nope the question was …. you have 80 seconds left.

  31. Two issues with this – the moderators may not be responsible for fact checking like I thought they were, but Trump said very blatant lies that were very public without any resistance from anyone. No follow up questions or repeating his actual quotes.

    The other part is Trump spewed so much BS and didn’t tell a single complete truth, but the moderators never brought him back to topic. There’s no way Biden could have spent his time correcting Trump because it would be arguing every single point of nonsense Trump said every time.

  33. So let me get this straight. AHEAD OF TIME, CNN said they wouldn’t be doing any realtime fact checking. How is ANYONE surprised at the result? How can you be mad at CNN for doing exactly what they said? The time to be mad was beforehand, when they could actually do something about it.

  35. CNN was sold to pro-Republican conglomerates and their CEO is a pro-Trump facilitator. Wake up America, the entire country is being sold. Either sell out, or say no!

  36. Look up the Gish Gallup. This needs to be widely known and understood.

  37. I found the bit where trump would say things like “everybody knows it, the hosts know it (insert blatant lie)…” the most annoying and telling of CNN abject debasement.

  39. The scientific community learned this a couple decades ago, dealing with creationist liars. When someone doesn’t care about facts and reality, and is willing just to just throw oceanic tidal waves of lies at you, the only way to successfully debate them is to not do it. There’s simply no way to successfully respond to all of it.

    That’s where the term Gish Gallop came from. Dwayne Gish was a creationist famous for using this technique. The way the scientific community dealt with him was by refusing to engage him in live debates, and insist on doing it in writing, where they could pull each lie out one by one and engage with full scientific rigor and citations. Guess did not like this, because it was a successful way to show how full of crap he was, and discredit him.

    Problem here is that most of the people who might have bought anything that Trump said, aren’t going to be reading the follow up fact checks.

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