America’s big problem is not Biden, it’s the menace to democracy posed by Trump
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/29/americas-big-problem-is-not-biden-its-the-menace-to-democracy-posed-by-trump
America’s big problem is not Biden, it’s the menace to democracy posed by Trump
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/29/americas-big-problem-is-not-biden-its-the-menace-to-democracy-posed-by-trump
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Wow, the gaslighting is unreal. Is it ever going to stop?
Biden is unfit for office, end of story. Something needs to change.
So would Biden be in a better spot if say Nikki Haley were his opponent?
The debate was not a failure of President Biden. in fact, the President allowed the people of this country see the truth of trump and the republicans. I believe the republicans are scared spitless of President Biden and are willing to pull all stops to be rid of him. President Biden is doing his job, something trump never did. trump bulling and punching President’s Biden’s buttons (taking credit for President Biden’s work and lies) was a disgrace. The President should not step down. That is what Putin, world dictators, trump and republicans want.
I continue to back President Biden. Vote for him and blue down ballot.
world dictators
Actually it’s the whole government all the senators judges representives lawyers and corporations that is the problem they are all responsible for the way things are right now
Here we go again with the fear mongering
America’s problem is Biden fucked up that debate.
I wish the people that made the Constitution had mandated that it be revisited every so often, because it’s woefully outdated. People act like it’s some infallible, holy document and not something written by people hundreds of years ago with no idea what the future held. Amendments exist for a reason, but I don’t see any changes coming anytime soon.
America has two bad options right now.
But one of them – Trump – is so much worse than the other that this election is a test of the resilience and moral character of individual voters.
Can Americans show that they’re adults, get over their disappointment, and urgently vote for the least bad option?
Can Americans act in their own best interests even when it hurts to do so?
The next dipshit after Trump will just do the same
Trump doesn’t give a fuck, he really doesn’t, he just wants to win and surround himself with people who tell him yes
The guy, and it’ll be a guy, who follows after him will attack the same institutions
If I were an average voter, after seeing Biden’s condition last week, I’d be suddenly questioning everything I’ve been told, and that includes warnings of Trump’s fascistic endeavors.
I mean sure, democracy is great but have you seen Trump’s handicap and golf skills 😮
s/
This whole comment section is filled with bad actors
MAGA wants Russia to win
It’s both. One is by far worse than the other, but it’s still both.
I am completely at peace with my decision to vote for Joe Biden because I’m not voting for the man; I’m voting for his Administration. If Donald Trump is re-elected in November, this country is over. The only people worse than that despicable orange piece of garbage is literally everyone else that he surrounds himself with. And they’ll all be pardoned on day one of a Trump Administration. Fuck that.
All true but undecided and independent voters need to be convinced.
This is very true. Unfortunately, half of the nation disagrees and is poised to vote for him. This is why we need someone who can beat Trump.
It’s actually hate spewed online in echo chambers regardless of party affiliation.
Hate is a very powerful force and is a lethal cocktail mixed with poor education and the internet.
Dems have a chance to elect a new president who would go into the next election as an incumbent and take them another 4 years. 8 years of Dem control that Biden is too self-centered to see.
Even if we cling to the presidency, Biden is not energizing the electorate. Many candidates don’t even want Biden to stump for them. We are on the verge of having a completely GOP Congress, and they’ve certainly done their best to rig the judicial branch. A GOP Congress will not give Biden a SCOTUS judge, they will wait it out like they did with Obama.
A new candidate could bring a lot of new energy. A candidate that has the time (because they aren’t president right now) and the energy to show up and fight for the down ballot votes.
No shit Sherlock. But if you think Trump is such a threat maybe you should do anything in your power to ensure he isn’t elected? So is it surprising that people want a better candidate? The problem is the undecided, not those who already think that Trump is a threat to Democracy.
The problem is that the voterbase keeps us from having better options.
If Trump wins it’s pretty much “gg” for the little democracy we have left. I cant believe it’s actually come to voting for a walking corpse to keep that piece of shit out of office but here we are.
The fact that it has come to this is America’s biggest problem. Old people in cognitive decline need to be removed from political office.
Don’t be a menace to society while drinking your ensure in the hood.
Ya think?🤔
I was totally with this article until the last sentence. Did he blame the founding fathers for Trump? I mean, that’s crazy.
Still, it was nice to see a piece that focused on how horrible Trump is rather than the one bad night Biden had.
trump squashed the economy and the debt, Biden has fixed the economy and if we give him 4 more we will be in good shape. trump will have us all paying more, and raise the debt again to give himself and other billionaires another tax cut.
Id rather have a dork surrounded by patriotic experts than a moron surrounded by narcissistic felonious assholes.
No shit!!
Girl.
Ayup
Moreover, the manipulated minds of the masses by news outlets like fox. They are the actual problem.
So then choosing the right candidate to defeat him seems like a good plan
Again I say, *duh*
Well, yeah. That’s why we’re all so concerned about Biden not being able to beat him. Sorry was that not obvious?
Uh *wow*. No kidding. Glad we established that 9 years into this nightmare. Can we get serious about stopping him?
No fucking shit, but we need a competent candidate to defeat Trump.
4 years of Biden vs 4 years (and some*) with Trump.
Easy choice. Biden for thick skulls.
* look at the Supreme Court
“why not both”
Biden’s only the big problem insofar as he’s unable to stop the menace to democracy that is Trump.
It’s like saying “The clogged fire hose isn’t the problem right now, it’s the fire!”
The problem is that people are willing, even enthusiastic, to vote for Trump.
American as big problem is a two party system that can’t manage to put forth two candidates under 70 years of age. I mean look around at other countries.
And Biden is handing over a victory to Trump on a silver platter, therefore, the problem is also Biden.
America has no sane media companies anymore, which is why The Guardian is the thing being posted. Trump IS the main problem, and all the media can do in America is make dramatic looking Time covers for Biden while ignoring the fact that the Supreme Court is killing us all and so is Trump.
The MAGA movement needs to stop trying to destroy this country. This shit is crazy now
Of course it is. I cannot believe that people are even considering for one second that Biden is the lesser choice because of a single debate. I seriously don’t know how people could even think to switch so fast after the horror that is Trump.
They’re both a problem stop lying. And the country is heading in the same direction whoever wins.
The same voter apathy we saw in 2016… it’s gonna be worse in November. MMW.
If you really think democracy is at risk, then Biden is a big problem.
America’s “Big Problem” is both Joe Biden AND Donald Trump.
Trying to minimize the damage Biden has inflicted on working class Americans in the past three and a half years will only incite them to vote against him in four months.
Biden needed policy wins to help more working class Americans. He didn’t deliver. Not enough. And now those voters are going to vote against him or sit out in the critical battleground states.
The Guardian is running the same kind of article about Trump that’s been pumped out for nearly 10 years straight now. Guess what? It didn’t work in 2016. It only worked in 2020 because there was a worldwide pandemic. And in 2024, it looks like it’s going to fail again.
The DNC and it’s media complicit allies need to offer working class America something better than “We are just slightly less devastating to your future compared to Trump” That message is clearly not working. I don’t know why outlets like the Guardian keep trying to use them.