Calls to replace Biden vs. silence on Trump? America has lost its political mind.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/07/01/biden-replace-age-debate-trump/74264221007/
Calls to replace Biden vs. silence on Trump? America has lost its political mind.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/07/01/biden-replace-age-debate-trump/74264221007/
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It’s simple. Democrats are supposed to be better than Republicans. We have to be the adults in the room and nominate a competent, vigorous candidate.
Odd. The millions of Americans who are willing to trade in everything because of the cost of hamburger.
None of trumps base wants him to drop out. A good chunk of dems want biden to drop.
This isn’t even close to equivalent.
The people that want Trump to stop running are Biden supporters.
The people that want Biden to stop running are Biden supporters.
Finally someone said it
The problem isn’t that Democrats are thinking of replacing Biden. The problem is that Democrats have so many great backup candidates and great members that can beat Trump. This is a good problem for Democrats which demonstrates the strength of the party.
To prevent party infighting over the nominee in the event Biden decide not to run, it is possible to change a few paragraphs in the DNC procedural rules to prevent vote splitting.
For nominations, change the rules to allow delegates to sign nomination petitions for an unlimited number of candidates. Then have the chair announce the top 10 candidates in order of number of signatures gathered. Then allow the top 10 candidates to give 20 minute speeches.
After speeches, allow delegates to vote for any number of the top 10 candidates, and use approval voting to tally the results. Then have the chair announce the top 2 candidates in order of number of votes. Then allow the final two candidates to give 20 minute speeches. Then hold a final vote.
These alternate rules will eliminate vote splitting and select a consensus candidate that will perform strongly in the general election without a lengthy convention battle. Maybe Biden’s got this but the Democratic Party has lots of great members and an alternate nominating process would result in great ratings and lot of great speeches why Trump is not the guy.
Unfortunately we have to beat Trump at the polls. There’s no other way he’s stepping down considering he’s pushed his entire family into positions of power in the Republican party.
We need a candidate who can help us defeat Trump.
This spin is the worst take. We don’t want Trump to run, but he’s the opposition. If we lose in November then it’s because we were too scared to admit Biden is not capable, and saying “Well neither is Trump” is the a completely ineffective strategy.
The democratic party needs to work to earn more votes instead of continuing to run biden on the platform of “well at least I’m no Trump.”
It’s not working and it’s time to pivot and try to actually win more votes.
Because the people on trumps side love trump and want trump. The people on Biden side hate trump and don’t want trump under any circumstances.
This article is stupid.
They’re not talking about replacing Biden because of his administration’s policy positions. Age and mental decline is not a superficial issue.
1. NYT runs op-ed demanding Trump drop out of the race
2. ???
3. Victory!
Really disturbing how normalized Trump has become…
The right has done a spectacular job of running the news cycle, even in this place any new post has been doom about how bad biden is and how much he needs to drop out.
Forget that biden the next day went out and delivered a great speech and was fine, barely any news covered that and it never got traction because some people just want to see the country burn under trump I guess.
Vote blue to dismantle the Supreme Court
I will vote for Biden if he is the nominee, because a second Trump term would be an absolute disaster.
This does not mean I think he should be the nominee, & that I can’t criticize the DNC for their absolute inability to read the f*cking room this year. Or in 2020. Or in 2016.
The DNC sucks & is a bunch of right-of-center establishment insiders.
I think of it like this: capital owns one party outright, & has merely severely corrupted the other. In that situation, I guess I have to go with Corrupt Out of Touch Losers 2024.
“well why don’t you call on Trump to resign?!!?!” is literally a child’s argument, one that relies on having zero understanding of the current political landscape.. The reason we don’t call on Trump to resign is because we already know there’s a zero percent chance of him listening to us and that his base doesn’t care about any of the same stuff we do. The reason we’re calling on Biden to resign is specifically *because* we understand how big of a threat Trump is to democracy, and we’d actually like to stop him, instead of waltzing into defeat the way Democrats are currently doing.
Responding to these calls with “uhh but what about Trump?!” is the equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and yelling “nanananana I can’t hear you.” Aggressively unserious behavior.
I tell you how Biden can fix this. Go onto an unscripted interview today and let’s see how it goes. Do this enough and prove the debate was just nerves and settle people down.
It’s all just propaganda pushed by the 7 people that own all media in the western world who all happen to be Trumpers.
The problem is that the associated press is one of the few remaining independent news agencies in the world, and all of the rest are owned by the 0.1% who will financially benefit from trump.
One side wants the best candidate they can find to represent their interests and lead the country. The other side wants trump.
God, with mindless articles like this being posted and upvoted daily here, you just know we are barreling towards another 2016.
When your media pays for itself by getting clicks they start running headlines like that because they get the most clicks. Nothing more or less than that, they don’t actually hold these principles to be true or really care about educating or informing the populace. Corporate media is a major problem and they enable Trump’s fascism and the degradation of the US
We lost our political mind a while ago
Despite all the Biden talk, his approval ratings among the previously undecided have gone up. What has been taken for granted during the debate is that Trump went unhindered as he kept going on lying rants. It was very obvious he was saying what he had to in order to gain the cheers of his “adoring fans.” This means to the normal folk he looked like a complete asshole.
Trump has desensitized us to his antics, it’s like the sun coming up, it’s just expected now.
And just to remind everyone, simply choosing to not vote is NOT an option.
You cant just go, “if I cant see it, its not my problem”. Because it will be your problem, and everyone elses. The only way not voting would work, is if EVERY voter didnt vote. You all know thats not happening, because all of Trumps supporters will be out in droves.
So vote, even if you dont agree with Biden or want another old person. Just do it. Because having Trump again will be worse than Biden, by a long shot.
It’s two standards. Everyone expects Trump to be a maniac and a liar. Nothing he says or does seems to have any consequences. People still have normal politician expectations for Biden and also for some reason people are hyper focused on his age and not his achievements even though Trump is basically just as old and is a raging narcissist out of touch with reality.
“why aren’t you mad about the batshit crazy liar that half the country voted for and elected president 8 years ago?? then almost won again 4 years ago?? you weren’t mad enough then!! stop blaming biden!!”
Maybe Biden should start having them arrested. Apparently presidents are immune from getting in trouble for anything they claim is ‘official’
Just JFK/Nixon all over again. Nixon won that tv debate. He broke the law of looking bad on TV.
It’s not America,.it’s the Russian bot farms.
Trump said he would negotiate with a hostile foreign power to end a war we are funding before he is even inaugurated and I haven’t heard a single person even mention it. Completely unacceptable
I’d vote for Biden’s corpse over Trump, but can we please stop with the gaslighting from the Democratic establishment?
sleepwalking through Weimar.
Anyone find it interesting that Trump and MAGA-land aren’t joining the calls telling Biden to give up the nomination? What does that tell you? Trump wants to go against Biden and is afraid to take on a replacement. Not only are they not staying out of it, they are actively saying Democrats must stick with Biden or else they will be seen as defying the will of the primary voters. Although the rationale doesn’t matter (MAGA will say anything) but the important part is that MAGA knows Biden is almost dead and they desperately want to keep Biden as the Democratic nominee.
Seems like Trump is smarter than all the “stay the course with Biden” Democrats. Funny that all these wise Democratic leaders are doing exactly what Trump wants.
Oh for fucks sake, we are silent on Trump because everybody knows he’s a monster. We are focused on finding the best means of defeating the monster, trying to reason with the cultists supporting it and asking the monster to drop out is a waste of time.