Just me or do maps like this look depressing because it makes it seem more conservative than what it actually is?
by Dawnbringer_Fortune
Just me or do maps like this look depressing because it makes it seem more conservative than what it actually is?
by Dawnbringer_Fortune
31 comments
Not as depressing as the quality of life metrics the government shown on the map has delivered 🤷
Come Friday morning it will look a lot different.
These maps make me realise how sparsely populated some parts of Wales actually are. Those Brecon & Radnorshire and Ceredigion size constituencies are hard for my Cardiff mind to comprehend.
Give it 5 days. Also remember a lot of conservative seats in 2019 were won on fairly thin majorities. The Bridgend MP for example won by about 1000 votes and went on to make a right fool of himself and then failed at doing a chicken run to another seat.
Can see my house from there
They normally do a hex 1 per constituency map. Here’s a prediction one of 2017
https://open-innovations.org/blog/2017-06-09-election-hex-map
Land does not vote. Populations do.
I give up with the lot. I’m voting independent. I’d vote plaid but they don’t seem interested in a vote where I live. Only labour and independant have bothered to give our flyers.
Land doesn’t vote, people do.
r/peopleliveincities
Or I guess in this case r/peopleliveinvalleys?
Every field in the Vale of Glamorgan is telling me to vote conservative. Fortunately, land doesn’t vote.
Check out area cartograms and hex maps (sometimes called hexogram maps or constituency maps). I personally find the former an eyesore but it’s an interesting way of trying to eliminate the problem you’re seeing.
I wonder what the blue areas all have in common 🤔
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Nice collection of election maps here: [https://cwps.aber.ac.uk/maps/](https://cwps.aber.ac.uk/maps/)
Some interesting differences between Westminster seats and Senedd seats, especially when you have the regional seats and the almost but not-quite proportional representation.
It’s also really sad because in the last elections in Pembrokeshire, more people voted for leftish parties than voted for the conservatives; it was just split. If you combined Labour and Plaid voters, they actually had a much larger proportion of the vote share than the Conservatives did.
Honestly I would be very surprised if we saw much change at all. IMO Labour’s slow and steady growth of Cardiff has been working great.
Wales has a very satisfying shape
You need one of those maps that turns every constituency into an equally sized dot.
The yanks call it Gerrymandering (spelling?) I saw this in my lifetime when they gutted Clwyd to reinstate Flintshire… Boomer mother was elated because ‘it’s proper like how when she grew up’ despite now being a shitter smaller county.
North and Mid Wales….”Its as though the Government in Cardiff doesn’t know we exist ”
🤔
Rural areas tend to be more conservative, and they always cover larger geographical areas than urban areas. That’s why a map like this can look distressingly blue – until you realise sheep, fields and mountains cannot vote.
It bothers me so much!! Esp the two massive constituencies
Same in the USA – 100k acres of farmland with 8 people is the size of Los Angeles with 8 million.
The seats are based on population not land area
The map could almost be a map of English colonisation, Pembrokeshire and the vale of Glamorgan were Norman enclaves long before the much later conquest by Edward I. Those areas and Ynys Mon still attract English retirees who bring their politics with them.
Still shocks me that Ynys Món somehow elected Virginia Crosby at the last general election. Here’s hoping Llinos Medi Huws gets elected this time.
Land doesn’t vote, people do. It’s similar to the USA where vast swathes of the country is red but populated areas vote differently
Brecon , Radnor and Cwm Tawe won’t stay Tory. (Gutted if it does).
Historically this area has been LibDem then Tory recently. But political word on the street is that Labour may nick this one for the first time ever.
That could be due to the change and adding Cwm Tawe. I don’t know how they voted historically. Pretty confusing, speaking as a tactical voter who definitely wants the Tories out.
If only The official monster raving looney would win a seat.
Yeah but were its red is where people actually live 🤣
There’s a reason the bit in the middle is called the ‘desert of Wales’.
My family used to holiday on the coast near Aberystwyth, driving from just the other side of the border which is a journey of 80 or so miles. I can recollect several of those journeys taken during midweek where we passed only four or five vehicles going in the opposite direction – the population is *tiny* until you get to the coast.
Oh, and the bit in the northeast that’s red? It’s where all the Liverpudlian ex-pats live 🙂