Do activist know about planet which is not plane and is round?
And if Norway will stop drilling it will be only worth. Because in Norway they have much more ecological and tech requirements to drilling
And if they will stop drilling it only means that in other place on the planet will be more drilling
For example more pollution in Siberia, or more pollution in Nigeria or any other place where would be any ecological requirements
Their demands look so stupid.
Stop pollution here – go and destroy ecology in other country!!! and pollute planet even more !!!
Especially I Likes PLASTIC chairs they use for CIRCLE OF SOLIDARITY!!!
This is a hard position to be in. Norway gets the benefits of drilling meanwhile the damage is shared by all the rest of the world (tragedy of the commons). Short term always makes sense to just continue polluting, even when long term is a bad deal. Also, the people deciding are old and will not see the worst of the horrible consequences. I hope that we get to some solution that takes into account the future and not just short term profit.
Its deeply immoral to stop producing oil. The only effect will be that oil prices rise, and poor people and countries are priced out of the market. And food prices will increase. Millions of the most vulnerable people will die.
We need to address CO2 on the consumption side, not the production. In fact, Norway is doing it exactly correct now. By using their oil wealth to finance the translation to alternative energy forms.
I would love to pick their brains for a few seconds tbh. I’m a Norwegian and an environmental engineer. Honestly I love that young people are involved and show what they think, but in some cases I feel it gets to simple.
1. I wonder what they thought are on oil production itself. It’s a fact producing in the North Sea reduces transport costs compared to WTI for instance. This may be countered by increased environmental footprint on test drilling and extraction, but still it’s not that straight forward.
2. Oil isn’t oil. Crudes around the world vary in sulphur content, weight and other chemical properties. Cutting off production here doesn’t necessarily means it’s better for the environment. There’s a reason why Brent and WTI are preferred for gasoline and fuel distillation.
3. If we stop drilling we also stop future supply of natural gas. I wonder what their thoughts are on natural gas vs coal?
4. And I’m unsure why they think the European law will interfere with any domestic drilling operation on the Norwegian shelf? If we are drilling in international waters I wasn’t aware of that.
5. And that’s before they look into the national economy and figure out what this would mean for pensions, employment, the welfare state and so on.I’m in total agreement of reducing the activity, but this is a process that means we need to rebuild industry and fundamentally change. You can’t just stop over a year.
6. In the end the main reason to do this is climate, and when it comes to climate it’s a global game. If you include absolutely everything Norway’s climate gross climate footprint is 0,1% or 001% of the global one if I remember correctly.
It’s a lot worse if you compare per capita, but still it’s a piss in the ocean compared to the big players. So the question is how do you effectively take action?
I think Norway should spend a major part of their income from oil to invest in greener technology and build more offshore windfarms and look into turbines that generate power from waves.
Can I stop them? Probably not. I can try though I guess. But I doubt they’ll listen to me. Sorry.
but can you stop the sami from believing they’re indigenous?
I do not understand this. The energy price is increasing, part of the reason is the supply is not enough. There might be people freezing to death this winter, espeically in poor countries (i really hope this will not be the case). Before we can find an affordable renewable energy, affordable to developing countries, I believe it would be selfish to demand cutting off/reducing energy supply: I understand future is important, but lives at present are equally valuable.
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Do activist know about planet which is not plane and is round?
And if Norway will stop drilling it will be only worth. Because in Norway they have much more ecological and tech requirements to drilling
And if they will stop drilling it only means that in other place on the planet will be more drilling
For example more pollution in Siberia, or more pollution in Nigeria or any other place where would be any ecological requirements
Their demands look so stupid.
Stop pollution here – go and destroy ecology in other country!!! and pollute planet even more !!!
Especially I Likes PLASTIC chairs they use for CIRCLE OF SOLIDARITY!!!
This is a hard position to be in. Norway gets the benefits of drilling meanwhile the damage is shared by all the rest of the world (tragedy of the commons). Short term always makes sense to just continue polluting, even when long term is a bad deal. Also, the people deciding are old and will not see the worst of the horrible consequences. I hope that we get to some solution that takes into account the future and not just short term profit.
Its deeply immoral to stop producing oil. The only effect will be that oil prices rise, and poor people and countries are priced out of the market. And food prices will increase. Millions of the most vulnerable people will die.
We need to address CO2 on the consumption side, not the production. In fact, Norway is doing it exactly correct now. By using their oil wealth to finance the translation to alternative energy forms.
I would love to pick their brains for a few seconds tbh. I’m a Norwegian and an environmental engineer. Honestly I love that young people are involved and show what they think, but in some cases I feel it gets to simple.
1. I wonder what they thought are on oil production itself. It’s a fact producing in the North Sea reduces transport costs compared to WTI for instance. This may be countered by increased environmental footprint on test drilling and extraction, but still it’s not that straight forward.
2. Oil isn’t oil. Crudes around the world vary in sulphur content, weight and other chemical properties. Cutting off production here doesn’t necessarily means it’s better for the environment. There’s a reason why Brent and WTI are preferred for gasoline and fuel distillation.
3. If we stop drilling we also stop future supply of natural gas. I wonder what their thoughts are on natural gas vs coal?
4. And I’m unsure why they think the European law will interfere with any domestic drilling operation on the Norwegian shelf? If we are drilling in international waters I wasn’t aware of that.
5. And that’s before they look into the national economy and figure out what this would mean for pensions, employment, the welfare state and so on.I’m in total agreement of reducing the activity, but this is a process that means we need to rebuild industry and fundamentally change. You can’t just stop over a year.
6. In the end the main reason to do this is climate, and when it comes to climate it’s a global game. If you include absolutely everything Norway’s climate gross climate footprint is 0,1% or 001% of the global one if I remember correctly.
It’s a lot worse if you compare per capita, but still it’s a piss in the ocean compared to the big players. So the question is how do you effectively take action?
I think Norway should spend a major part of their income from oil to invest in greener technology and build more offshore windfarms and look into turbines that generate power from waves.
Can I stop them? Probably not. I can try though I guess. But I doubt they’ll listen to me. Sorry.
but can you stop the sami from believing they’re indigenous?
I do not understand this. The energy price is increasing, part of the reason is the supply is not enough. There might be people freezing to death this winter, espeically in poor countries (i really hope this will not be the case). Before we can find an affordable renewable energy, affordable to developing countries, I believe it would be selfish to demand cutting off/reducing energy supply: I understand future is important, but lives at present are equally valuable.