Biden vows to stay in race ‘to the end’, as governors affirm support

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/7/3/white-house-bats-down-reports-biden-assessing-exit-from-presidential-race

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  2. Horrible news. This geriatric patient doesn’t want to lose power until the grave, very selfish and the staffers that make money off him don’t want to lose their cushy jobs. Too many geriatric liberals (Feinstein, Biden, RBG) are in it for themselves and don’t put the country first.

  7. RBG energy. Our country is doomed because feeble fucks won’t retire.

  8. “But the incumbetent advantage! And debates don’t matter, because Obama won!!”

    Not being able to form a single coherent sentence in a 90 min debate is no problem

  11. This is so frustrating.

    The guy clearly has dementia. Half the party is trying to gas light the other half into thinking that he is fine lmao

    We have the perfect opportunity to put someone in there that we care about. And instead of having a discussion I am getting shouted down.

    I am being told I am arguing in bad faith.

    This is so fucking stupid.

    Didn’t learn the lesson in 2016, and an incumbent advantage works a lot better when you don’t lead the party to believe you’re not going to run again.

  12. I’ll say this. I will stand behind Biden, donate, rally support, and do everything I can. But if we lose this election, I will never donate again, never vote Democrat again, and register as an independent. The recalcitrance of the DNC is infuriating. The hubris of the Biden family is enraging. If they had begun in 2020 to form a succession plan and planned for Biden to exit gracefully as the president who dethroned Donald Trump, this could have all been avoided. This would have allowed for a younger candidate such as Whitmer, Shapiro, Beshear etc. to slowly build recognition and clout over the past for years and become household faces by 2024. Now, even if we do a switcheroo, it may be too late. Americans may decide to return Trump to the white house simply because he’s done the job before, these are uncertain times, and they’d rather a familiar face than an unknown entity assuming the reins.

    This has been a travesty of a political operation.

  13. It’s one thing to be the game old geezer who rides his bicycle and looks cool wearing aviators but the reanimated corpse we all saw at the debate is entirely another. He has to think about his legacy and the future of his country and stand down.

  14. Biden’s legacy isn’t going to be as a career public servant that saved us from facism, but as the avatar of the silent/boomer gen not getting the fuck out of the way and letting the younger generations actually advance into positions of power.

    I’m beyond disappointed and into disgust.

    This is delusion.

  18. “In a CNN poll published earlier this week, three-quarters of registered voters said Democrats would have a better chance at winning the election with someone other than Biden on the ticket.

    Voters also favoured Trump over Biden, 49 percent to 43 percent.”

    He’s vowing to lose, and these governors have his back.

  19. I still think he drops out tomorrow sometime, possibly during his ABC interview. The media (I know what everyone thinks of them, but whatever) was at such a frenzied pitch yesterday about party insiders discussing plans for him to step aside that I, frankly, think they got some information on background that we haven’t heard – something beyond the couple of Congress members that have called for him to quit. Ever notice how it’s rare any more that we see truly “out of the blue” events in politics? Everyone is so connected that the media knows far more than what they can officially report.

    The governors are providing him space to work out his exit in his own way, and will publicly support his candidacy up until the last second of it, to maintain as much order as possible in the party.

    Tomorrow evening, or by the latest early next week, he’ll be out.

  20. You can bet if they lose they’ll find a way to blame progressives or some marginal third party candidate instead of themselves for their mistakes. No lessons will be learned, as is tradition.

    We’re really going to go this whole debate cycle without anyone calling Trump a rapist sexual predator and con artist to his face, aren’t we?
    P
    EDIT: I was wrong. He said these things and I missed it.

    But hey, at least they both look like they golf together. I’m sure that inspires confidence in Biden.

  21. Then he needs to get out more and prove that the debate performance was an anomaly. You don’t give a a performance like that and then disappear. Get out and prove the growing majority of people who have doubts (I am one of them) wrong! And quit calling us the “Bedwetting Brigade”. Like uh, yeah, no shit we’re nervous. The guy running against Trump can’t make easy, coherent arguments as to why he’s better!!!

  22. Just want to say that this is the third straight presidential election the DNC has forced through the establishment candidate. When the other option is a fascist dictatorship, we are given the choice of option A or option A. If we somehow cling to democracy this election cycle, ranked choice primaries need to become THE thing (after SCOTUS reform which needs to be happening right this instant).

  25. The system needs to be torn apart. With Biden so evidently well past his sell by date, his team selling us lies about his capability and now the entire system trying to prop that illusion of capability, it is clear that the current system is not designed to serve the people. It just serves establishment egos and ambitions. I have done my bit to stop the orange demon, but maybe he is needed to rip up the system

  26. Even before the debate, Biden wasn’t leading Trump in the polls. Now it’s swung harder against him. This is just crazy.

    If Biden were winning by 5+ points heading into the debate (like he was in 2020), and then had a disaster out night, I could see why you’d want to forge ahead with him. But he was already losing and your fight just got that much harder. How do you think you can win?

  27. Fuck Biden for this. It’s 2016 all over again. Democrats have learned nothing.

  28. He is running an awful campaign. He needs to shift to the future, what he has done, and criticize the issues Trump left him with. These insults to each other won’t go anywhere other than the grave of his political career.

  29. How pathetic is it that with 4 years to prepare to face a felon facist that the dems have zero plan and are worried to lose. I’m definitely not stoked.

  30. As a kid I always really admired America and looked on from a distance thinking how cool it would be to be an American. How lucky you are to be a part of that. At 40 all I can say is thank god I’m not an American.

    Good luck lads, you’re going to need it.

  31. Allan Lichtman has predicted 15 of 16 last elections and still has Biden winning. The only election he was wrong on was Bush/Gore.

  32. I fear we are repeating 2016. Look my decision is made. I’m voting for whoever the democrats nominee is. Hell I would vote a ham sandwich before Trump but I fear others aren’t willing to make this sacrifice with their vote.

  33. The only way to prove he’s not senile is by showing, not telling. Exhaustive live appearances, outside the bubble, without cuts and edits.

    I suspect he won’t because he can’t.

    I’m livid he’s not stepping aside and handing this shit to Donald Trump. Fuck him and Jill (under current course)

  34. I’m a registered independent voter. I will be voting for Biden regardless because I truly believe Democracy will die with Trump as president, but I think if Biden stays in, then we will end up with Trump in the white house come January 2025. If Biden is going to stay in the race, then he needs to come out and prove that he’s capable of being president. I don’t watch a lot of news, but this debate fiasco led me down a rabbit hole. I could see if this was his first time looking senile, but it isn’t. He looked lost during the D-Day memorial commemoration. I voted against Trump in 2020 because he made an embarrassment out of the United States and the office of the presidency. Biden is doing the same thing now, just in a different way. I really don’t think he is fit to be the president for the next 4 years. I don’t even think he can make it through another term. Biden can go down as the guy who saved us from Donald Trump in 2020, or he will go down as the guy who stood by and let Democracy die.

  35. What are Democrats obsession with Biden? He’s better than Trump (everyone is) but Dems act like he’s the only one who can win or lead this country. Where is Whitmer, Newsome, etc ..Time for young leadership to step the fuck up and lead this country into the future.

  36. The disconnect between the DNC and the voters is so terribly sad an untimely. It’s not that we hate Biden or think he isn’t a good president. He is. And I am 100% confident that him in a wheelchair, eating baby food and forgetting what shoes he has on, is better than Trump. 

    But that isn’t the issue. 

    Democrats know why they’re voting for. Republicans know who they’re voting for. There is still a significant portion of people left over who aren’t informed or decided, who will vote where the wind blows and those people will decide the election. What they see is not the Inflation Reduction Act, the CHIPS and Science Act, the Infrastructure plan, the potential of new SCOTUS judges, the falling inflation or unemployment, the green energy plans. They see the debates, clips from the debate on social media, what their friends tell them, and maybe a popular congressman’s two cents on Fox or CNN in passing. That’s the battle we have to win. 

    Biden cannot win it. He dropped the ball and kicked it further behind us on the debate stage, he’s yet to do anything substantial to remedy it, he hasn’t taken any questions, he hasn’t spoken to the press at length, he hasn’t done anything off the cuff, he hasn’t reached out directly on social media, he’s only speaking through surrogates and his staff. The people who believe in Biden aren’t the problem. You have to make people excited about him, and he can’t fulfill that promise. Trump knows this, that’s why he’s been on popular podcasts, thats why he hasn’t publicly endorsed any real policy or plan for action, that’s why he’s speaking directly to the public, that’s why he has a cult of personality in the first place. The game of politics being this way is why he’s even a candidate in the first place. It’s past time to take the high road. The DNC can’t make the rules of the game, the voters do, and if you aren’t willing to play it you’ll lose every time. 

  37. Anyone can have a bad day. When this happens you hit the media circuit and prove that’s what happened. You don’t have a series of private meetings. He should be on the Five arguing his case, not hiding from the media.

  38. I think that the adamant defenders of sticking with Biden must live in a super liberal echo chamber city/state. So many voters in polls and anecdotally from what I’ve observed in a swing state have pleaded for a candidate that isn’t super old and now would be the perfect chance to secure all those votes. The biggest way to get votes and win would be to say it’s time for a younger generation to step in because voters have been asking for this choice. That could literally be the main campaign theme and all the talk about another candidate’s lack of experience becomes a moot point to the average voter.

  40. Why does he need to prove it to governors and not THE VOTERS?! this is the problem with our politics is our politicians are more encapsulated in their bubble than connecting directly with the people.

  41. “To the end” was about a week ago. So when are you dropping out Joe?

  42. He’s so petty and his pride is going to result in a huge blowout

  44. So this is the proverbial “beginning of the end” then.

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