Democratic donors push Gretchen Whitmer and Gavin Newsom as Joe Biden replacements
https://www.ft.com/content/6d9e121a-b493-4305-8016-f43fb381552f
Democratic donors push Gretchen Whitmer and Gavin Newsom as Joe Biden replacements
https://www.ft.com/content/6d9e121a-b493-4305-8016-f43fb381552f
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🙏 Just DO IT 🙏
Now we’re talking!
Man, that would be one hell of a ticket. I’m sure they were eyeing 2028 already but hey, we need you now!
Gretchen Yes.
Newsom No.
Harris. HELL NO.
If it’s not Gretchen, then just let Biden keep going.
What is the love of Gavin Newsom? I dont get it.
Please do it!!!! for the love of god we need this right now
Don’t you fucking tease me with these articles, I’ll be ecstatic if Whitmer is the nominee
A Whitmer / Shapiro ticket would include two swing state governors generally popular with their state constituencies. Both states are absolutely necessary for Democrats to win, and California is already a lock for Democrats. Why is Newsom even in the picture here?
Anyway, I watched these two recent interviews with Harris and Whitmer today, and the choice is blindingly obvious.
[https://youtu.be/CMBmrW6LzV0?si=OM0CKPR0WQftgDgZ](https://youtu.be/CMBmrW6LzV0?si=OM0CKPR0WQftgDgZ)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MInADxfeZxU&t=942s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MInADxfeZxU&t=942s)
Hope they get a good running mate and Harris’ assistance if it is so.
Whitmer would be a better pick than Newsom, but both would be infinitely better than Biden, Harris, or someone from The Squad.
If we are ditching Kamala too then why not to with Whitmer/Shapiro? That gives you two swing states right out the gate.
Whitmer turned Michigan into a blue trifecta. Not only is she popular in Michigan but her influence would also help in the other rustbelt swing states like PA and WI. That’s what she’d bring to the table immediately. Not even Harris or Newsom could do that.
Good call. Democrats aren’t pushing Joe out because he’s old, or because he can’t do the job – they are pushing him out because he cannot win Michigan Wisconsin and probably Pennsylvania. So his replacement should be the person most likely to win those states, which is clearly Whitmer.
I’d love Whitmer. The only thing that makes me nervous about the replacement saga is whether the good candidates will want to roll the dice.
People like Whitmer may want to wait until 2028 – if they think whoever takes the reins is set up to lose, they may not want to hurt their own stock by losing to Trump.
I don’t get what others see in Newsom. He comes across as sleazy and self-important and the logic of people getting behind California’s Governor is confusing to me. Seems like someone who probably impresses the professional class in NYC, but someone who is seen as a bit of a douche by midwesterners.
Joe Biden should have never ran for a second term. Trump is his own worst enemy but it’s completely abhorrent the Dems have failed to come up with an actual good candidate without baggage. Not in 2016, not in 2020. Replacing the front runner 4 months to the election feels like something they’ll look back on and realize fucked them over even more.
If you went to central casting and asked for someone who looked reassuring and presidential and up to the job, you’d get Newsom or Whitmer.
Which quite apart from their politics is exactly what is needed at this point.
Kinda sad that the donors need to get involved in order for things to happen but please go ahead. Whatever it takes.
No way in Newsom, he’s a private equity rubber stamp, the Blue Romney, but I’ll support Whitmer. She will bring the Midwest and should show some smart leadership.
If we’re gonna explore this I have to point out how awesome it would be if the governor that MAGA had a kidnapping plot against got revenge against them in the best way possible by ending their leader’s political career.
Please!? I’m tired too, Joe. We need more fight.
Whitmer is the best pick: she’d bring a swing state, is a midwesterner, has little oppo narrative on them, and provides a strong rebuke to Roe v Wade being overturned.
Seems a little out of pocket for the donors to start sharing their bright ideas
Republicans wouldn’t turn against their candidate even in the face of multiple felony charges. Just stick the fucking course and vote blue.
If I had to choose one of these I would go with Whitmer. CA has a lot of baggage.
Is there anybody that could be a good VP for a Whitmer ticket who might help be popular with rural and working class voters? I think the she has a lock on suburban, college educated, and urban voters, but the Democratic party as a whole has a whole lot more to gain outside those areas.
No they don’t. Republican operatives push news stories about Democrats wanting Biden to leave the race so that Democrats become disillusion and don’t vote so Trump wins the presidency
Well Biden has to drop out first and I’m not sure he will
Living in a fantasy world.
This shouldn’t even be something we’re talking about. The very notion that Trump is running again and that there is a realistic chance he could win even against an older slower Biden just blows my mind.
Don’t care if it’s Whitmer or Newsom or Biden or Kamala or the guy who mows my lawn on Saturdays and does an excellent job, what’s absolutely critical is that the democratic coalition stands united behind the eventual nominee. I’m not voting for Biden because he’s my god king, I’m voting for him because I believe in his policies and his team. If another candidate has a better chance of implementing those policies and stave off project 2025, so be it. This is a group project. Bernie bros, Hillary stans and Biden fans need to stand together and be mad at each other in 2025 while still living in a democracy.
I’m sure division in the Democratic Party is really going to ensure victory in November!
If this election is as important as the DNC keeps shouting about, WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING running Biden?
All I know is this: whoever is at the top of the ticket, we must enthusiastically vote for them. The risk of Trump and Project 2025 are too high to quibble about the nuances of our candidate.
Every time I mention them to people I get the same response. “Who?”
Neither of those two people has national name recognition, the ability to use Biden‘s campaign war chest, or campaign operations even set up to go. The only viable replacement would be Kamala Harris. Screwing her over for one of those other two would destroy Democrats credibility in the black community.
This is so fucking stupid
Whitmer means locking up the blue wall again. She is a safe bet and, with the right cabinet, would be a great POTUS.
To me the logical solution to both the money thing, the image thing, and the ballot thing with Harris is have Harris and Whitmer run a joint ticket. Position her as the natural replacement after Harris, while also keeping Harris on the ballot.
It also allows the Democrats to use this as a talking point. In an election dealing with historic attacks on women’s rights, having the entire executive ticket for the Dems be women running against the living embodiment of toxic misogyny would be huge.
As a Californian and Gavin Newsome supporter, Gretchen Whitmer is the better choice for this moment. California is going blue either way, Mewsome on the ticket doesn’t change that. (Plus his ex is in some kind of unholy relationship with Don Jr, so expect salacious slander).
Whitmer on the other hand is crazy popular in Michigan and could probably lock down the rust belt. Plus she’s competent.
The best play is to let Biden run, win, then resign. Let Kamala finish his term then she has to fight for the nomination in 2028.
The worst play is to try to replace Kamala You will piss off your most loyal supporters,Black women.
This duo would destroy Donald Trump. Newsom/Whitmer. Let’s do it!!!!