Biden doubles-down at Wisconsin rally: ‘I’m staying in the race’

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/biden-wisconsin-rally-staying-in-2024-election-race-debate-rcna160417

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  1. 4 months should be plenty of time to hype up a new candidate. However, I’ll back whoever is going up against the traitorous felon as the Dem’s choice.

  2. He left the stage to “Won’t Back Down” by Tom Petty. What a kick in the face to voters. The entire party is being destroyed because of this man’s hubris. 

  3. I watched the speech. I think he’s serious, guys. I don’t think he’s planning on quitting.

  4. Biden’s going to keep saying this regardless of what actually happens. You don’t say “I’ve been meeting with key officials and one option we’ve discussed is me dropping out” especially if he ultimately does plan to stay in the race. They are in damage control mode, and admitting he may not be the best option would only hurt the campaign.

    Honestly, I think there’s maybe an 80% chance he stays in the race. His polling numbers would need to go down another 5% at least before I think he would step down. They’re going to try and regain some lost ground over this next week. I am extremely doubtful they can do it, but that’s clearly their current strategy.

    My biggest fear is that Biden doesn’t go down more in the polls, so he doesn’t drop out, but he also doesn’t go up either. I think in reality he’s going to plateau about where he is at now, and ultimately lose to Trump by a small margin.

    The argument is that Biden is a “safe” option because he’s established and changing the game now is a risky move, so the best bet is to hope for better polling, but I think we need to take some risks now. I don’t think Biden will recover from this in any way that leads to victory.

  5. I just got done watching this. I know he had a teleprompter and I was hoping he would bow out but he did actually perform pretty well. So long as he stays mad and show vigor, maybe he can recover? Idk

  6. He probably is totally insulated from people that would pressure him to drop out. He’s likely secured by a bubble of yes men.

  7. He’s become one of Trump’s biggest supporters, at this point.

  8. If he stays in the race and loses his legacy will forever be that he turned the country over to a fascist dictator because his ego wouldn’t allow him to do the right thing and step aside. All the good things he’s done over his political career will be forgotten. I hope people are trying to convey this to him and his inner circle.

  9. I streamed for an hour and a half and got 17 minutes of Biden.

  10. [Meanwhile Senator Warner is looking to get a group of Senators to urge Biden to dropout](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/05/mark-warner-joe-biden-exit-race-democratic-senators/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=reddit.com). If you don’t have the full support of your party, you probably aren’t going to win. Trump in 2016 was really the exception to the rule.

    I will say however, that he can’t go to a reelection rally and say “well, I might stay in, or I might dropout. I dunno yet!”

  11. I love how the dude in the back had a “pass the torch” poster with him. He also said something like “they want to push me out of the race”, who are “they”? People that don’t think he could survive a year into a second term?

  12. Lol, we “voted for him in the primaries” because nobody serious challenged him. I guarantee you he wouldn’t make it out of a primary ballot *today* that included the likes of Whitmer, Newsom, and Buttigieg on it.

  13. *Biden initially misspoke and said he would beat Trump again in 2020, and then seemed to correct himself and said: “We’re going to do it again in 2024.”*

    Sigh.

  14. The notion that only he could beat pos Trump is insane.

  15. Props to the lady behind him with the “pass the torch” sign. He stumbles with the teleprompter. It’s more and more noticeable that it’s crazy to expect another 4 years from him. Why can’t we nominate someone who will make a good president for four years?

  16. Once he is officially nominated we will see non stop ads showing him being incoherent at the debate, and likely of more mental breakdowns over the coming months.

    Voters will stay home since the Democrats didn’t care enough to put up a mentally competent candidate. Republicans will take over all 3 branches of government.

    When this happens we can look back to the decisions made throughout this cycle where Democrats tried to lie to voters about Biden’s mental condition.

  17. I just want to say for those who may be new here and are tired of all the takes, this sub has an abysmal record in predicting both primaries and general elections.

  18. Then you chose to lose America over your hubris, and you and the DNC are to blame

  19. What if he just dies or has a stroke, They will have wished they would have taken care of this now. Imagine that shit happens in September. Then it WILL be over. Those in charge of the Democratic party have no goddamn balls. Whitmer/Beshear can win the fuckin thing.

  20. 123 days before all hell breaks loose in america unfortunately

  21. Joe was what we needed in 2020 to kick #45 out of office and I thank Joe for his service, but it’s time to step aside.

    As much as I have blamed the GOP for allowing Trump to be the candidate in 2016, I now blame the Dems for not preparing someone to run in 2024. Biden held down the fort, but now we need to move forward with a new team.

  22. I support him or anyone else whose on the liberal ticket.

    I just hope he isn’t leading with his ego alone. Ruth Bader Ginsberg did that. Refusing to step down because she wanted the first female president to replace her seat. That was the beginning of this wretched mess.

    I blame RBG. I will blame Joe.

  23. Biden can yell at a teleprompter all he wants but it won’t convince anyone he’s fit for the job.

  24. It honestly shouldn’t be this hard to beat a fucking felon. Anyone should be able to beat Trump without breaking a sweat. But here we are.

  25. There are ~330 million Americans in this country. The amount of hubris to state that Joe Biden is the only person that can defeat Trump in the general election. This is why younger generations have such disdain for the majority of the older generations (boomers/silent). They are so arrogant and egotistical that they think this machine won’t keep running without them part of it. I got news for the Nancy Pelosi’s, Mitch McConnells, Joe Bidens, this country will keep on running without you in it.

  26. Trump’s second term brought to you by Ruth Bader Biden.

  27. I see that I can’t fly this plane, and yes I know there are more qualified pilots on board, but I made a promise.

    A perfect summary of the Liberal politics that led us to this nightmare. .

  28. Good. Let’s move on now. We watched the speech, we expressed our concerns, he addressed the concerns. Now, it’s all on him. Either he proves that he’s still capable and earns the votes to 50%+ of America and keeps the presidency, or he doesn’t and it’s on him. No more ‘what if he drops out,’ no more ‘who would replace him.’ Of course, I know there are still going to be the ‘what if he dies’ hypotheticals.

    Now, can we move on to the new Epstein shit that shows Donald Trump raping 13 year olds? Can we discuss that and have news articles calling on him to drop out?

  29. Can we shift the focus to all the problems with the other guy? I don’t know why the “liberal” media and all the democrats insist on repeating over and over that Biden should maybe not run.

    Trump is like a 20/10 danger to the entire planet. Biden wasn’t great at debating.

  30. You just don’t vote for a president, you vote for their administration. We’ve had four steady years under them.

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