18 MW: Deutschland wählt China als Lieferant der größten Windturbinen der Welt

https://interestingengineering.com/energy/chinese-wind-turbines-europe

26 comments

  1. Germany hasn’t learned a goddamned thing since the invasion of Ukraine.

  2. Great! The 21st century tradition of Germany relying on authoritarian regimes for its energy needs continue. Gotta say, that’s a very specific addiction.

  3. they can use those apartment buildings they keep demolishing for the blades

  4. yeah we could’ve been producing stuff like this on our own, but all the knowledge was sold to china instead and now we buy the stuff from them..

  6. Germany ditches nuclear as a reaction to a tsunami in Japan has to be one of the more short sides moves.

  9. Interesting how they went with a Chinese supplier instead of a domestic one like Siemens.

  10. its not Germany, a company is buying because we have no such big turbines from Siemens etc. still idiotic

  11. From Russian Gas to Chinese Wind. I’m pretty sure the strongest industrial power in the EU could have done it itself. But hey, I guess trying to play diplomacy is more important than self sufficiency.

  13. Siemens is the biggest producer in Germany … I wonder how much bribes the Chinese paid to get this contract.

  15. Giving large amounts of money to a genocidal regime that is hostile to democracy and human rights at the expense of domestic industry is the height of stupidity.

  16. So putting crucial energy resources in the hands of a hostile foreign government ***again***!

    ….seriously, Germany?

  17. Forgot what sub I was in and thought there was a new 18XX game being announced.

  18. They learned nothing from their Russian gas pipeline venture did they?

  19. Germany proves itself to be one of the biggest betrayers of western ideals, again.

    Fuck Germany.

  20. Maybe Germany will also get some free military drones hidden in those turbines

  21. Pretending China hasn’t been a key ally in green energy is really hurting the US. Germany is doing the right thing here. Someone needs to be the adult in the room, regarding moving green forward.

  22. Whole West has whores itself out, and we were years ahead of turbine tech YEARS ago. It’s fascinating how stupid we are, or just greedy.

  23. Fucking idiots. Instead of supporting the local industry in Europe or simply Germany they do this.

  24. How very global of them. I see no problem with this. Just like I saw no problem with getting their gas from Russia

  25. Those turbines China was shipping to Libya the other day were pretty sweet.

  26. The market is quite small, dominated by a few key players. GE, Vestas, Siemens. Nordex, and Enercon have all had their own issues at different times. GE, Vestas, and Siemens have all struggled to make reliable blades larger than 60-70m long, and it’s typically the blades and the tower that are being pushed to the limits these days.

    These Chinese companies have not existed for long, comparatively, and have been super tight-lipped about product defects. They had a senior engineer at one of these conferences claim they don’t have issues with cracks in their blades – a universal problem all other OEMs have experienced as blades have gotten larger. So either they’re lying or they have cracked a code all of these other companies have yet to be able to.

    China has struggled to make a meaningful impact in the wind industry outside of their own region. I think Germany drank the Kool-Aid China is serving and we’ll see the same short lifespans as competitors.

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