Der Bau des vierten chinesischen Flugzeugträgers hat Berichten zufolge begonnen

https://meta-defense.fr/en/2024/07/06/4-Chinese-aircraft-carriers-construction/

24 comments

  1. Continental Taiwan desperately playing catch-up again.

  3. The PLAN getting ready for “Guadalcanal II: Electric Tofudreg”

  4. Only 120ish more to go before they’re a real threat

  5. It’s not the carrier that’s the issue it’s the pilots. It’s kind of hard to land on a small run way that is dark as it is moving up and down and forward.

  6. Do they have the other ships needed to support 4 carriers or is this just one of those “look, we have 4 carriers” situations? 

  7. Apparently the Chinese learned nothing from the Russia excursion that resulted in over half their Navy destroyed by a country with no Navy.

  8. If they’re using the same steel they sold us for the Bay Bridge, I’m not worried.

  11. Which super tanker are they going to steal the engines from?

  14. Say what you will about the Chinese but they catch up fast.

    They started out with some old British Aircraft carrier from WWII and some cold war soviet relics to study the concept, bought the sister ship of the Russian Kutznesov from Ukraine turned that into a working aircraft carrier (as opposed what the Russian have) and learned and iterated what they had to the point where they now expect to have a fully functional nuclear powered aircraft carrier that is second only to what the US can field.

    They aren’t quite there yet when it comes to actually having planes and pilots that can make fully use of them, but they are working on it.

    They are unlikely to come close to what the US has any time soon, but unlike the US they don’t aim to be able to field multiple carrier groups simultaneously at different point around the globe. they just want to dominate their immediate surroundings for now and stake their claim on Taiwan and the Chinese sea and keep the shipping lanes though it open for them.

    They caught up really fast.

  16. Nice. Youth unemployment through the roof, property market collapsing, people committing suicide left and right (search the news about high pay girl from CICC jumping off a building in Shanghai due to mortgage)… flood in the south and tornado in the north.. China chose to spend money on a carrier which won’t make jack shit diffidence in a war with US anyway

  18. China catching up with carriers, US advancing with Manta Ray. Carriers likely won’t be the dominant force in the next major naval conflict.

  19. Yeah, 4 is ok. We got many more. Good luck.

    ‘As of July 2024, there are 47 active aircraft carriers in the world operated by fourteen navies. The United States Navy has 11 large nuclear-powered fleet carriers—carrying around 80 fighters each—the largest carriers in the world; the total combined deck space is over twice that of all other nations combined.’

  20. honestly this seems like a weird misguided maneuver in the drone era. I guess traditions die hard.

  21. Only 7 more to catch up to the usa most of these carriers do not come close to the same capabilities of a US super carrier.

    As far sorties per day capabilities and weapons capacity.

  22. Making modern aircraft carriers are one of hardest to master properly. All nations who built their own carriers know that.

    Each time they build one, they make mistake and use that carrier as best they can. They build successor from experience gained and it is better but new problems arise.

    What China is doing is crash course in learning and building carriers that are incredibly fast paced breakneck speed.

    I am kind of surprised China is set to build fourth carrier when Fujian is still undergoing sea trial and likely to discover more kinks as it is their biggest carrier up to now.

    Will China go for broke and go nuclear because EMAL installed on Fujian require enormous electricity and Fujian is non-nuclear powered?

  23. The other 3 are training vessels. This 4th one I believe will be their first legitimately useful carrier. It’s still garbage compared to an American carrier.

  24. Talk about running before you can walk,… carrier #3 isn’t fully operational because they haven’t solves power and catapult problems and they want to start making #4? Their economy is tanking and they still have a major problem with corruption in the military, so wasteful spending on a carrier they cannot complete is just foolish egotism.

    China has decades to go before developing a true blue-water navy. It’s not just about the number of ships, but the quality of training and the ability of the sailors. Playing coastal protector is about as useful as floating those expensive toys in a bathtub if you’re trying to project power.

    Still, if this is how China wants to run their country into the ground, why should we interrupt them when they’re doing such a good job at pushing the self-destruct button?

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