Only 10% of newly permitted buildings in Germany last year will use gas heating, down from 50% in 2015

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  3. district heating gets talked about a a lot recently

    what’s the gas/ oil consumption reduction from private heating to district heating?

    i know a lot of district heating runs on biomass, waste factory heat or more recently giant heat pumps, but would there be large savings from district heating alone, even if the heat plant run on gas?

  4. It’s cute. The thing is most buildings in Germany are very old. Atleast their heating infrastructure is. So this is a nice development but in actual effect this has a rather small impact. Germany is struggling with upgrading existing housing. Both with insulation and with updating the actual heaters. A lot of heaters in homes are 20-40years old.

  5. It’s insane that more than 50% of new buildings had gas heating in 2015. I guess that’s what Schröder’s EEG levy was for…

  6. This is confusing. This looks like the way heat is produced, but in general we look at the source of energy because that is what matters from an environmetal/resource management point of view.

    Sure there are electric heat pumps, but they use…electricity. What would be interesting is to depict how this electricity is produced. In fact more than 10% of electricity in Germany comes from natural gas…

  8. District heating with industrial scale heatpumps is the way. Denmark has already shown us how it’s done. Let’s hope it will become increasingly popular in coming years

  9. How come electric heat pumps are so popular. I always thought heating with electricity is the most expensive option? Is it some kind of new technology, or it’s still expensive but fossil fuels and gas are just too pricey and dirty now?

  10. Looks fine. Especially if hold in mind fact that heat pumps can work outside peaks of electricity consumption. 

  11. who in his right mind would build a new house from scratch with fossile heating? EU ETS II is starting in less 3 years and nearly all heat pump producers are giving sales like crazy due to full storages.

  12. Heat pumps are like fucking efficiency magic. It’s insane. Combined with solar and battery storage, even more so.

    The initial investment of these 3 things combined is obviously much bigger than heating with gas or wood/wood pellets. But you build houses to last 60 years or longer, so what’s 5-10 more years of paying off your housing credit when compared to the lifespan of a house? When, after this timespan, you’ll essentially have free heating and electricity?

    Only a fool that only seeks short term low costs would choose gas heating for a new house in this day and age.

  14. And the electricity to run all those sweet electric heat pumps will come from? 
    IMHO it’s just a matter of time before EU goes nuclear. FR, ES, CH, UK have it, so we are already exposed to the (low) risks & already have the technology almost “in house”, it makes no sense not to.
    I love renewables but unless you have colossal water basins (see Brazil) when the sun doesn’t shine & wins doesn’t blow there simply is no other way than nuclear not to fall back to gas or coal.

  15. In my city (Stockholm) a gas stove costs 230 dollars to keep with gas for a year, while an electric stove is 39.68 dollars (625 kwh).

    I had my gas line plugged in 2013.

  16. What these graphs are not saying is that significantly less houses were built overall.

    In 2023 the amount of permits for residences built was down 27 % and at the lowest level since 2012. Privately built [family homes took the worst hit and are down 42%.](https://www.destatis.de/DE/Presse/Pressemitteilungen/2024/02/PD24_074_3111.html)

    Large amounts of prospective home owners were priced out of the market by rising costs of energy intensive building materials like cement (+42%) and gypsum (+40%). So only the richer folks got to build and they could afford heat pumps.

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