AOC Breaks Her Post-Debate Silence With Ringing Biden Endorsement
https://www.thedailybeast.com/aoc-breaks-her-post-debate-silence-with-ringing-biden-endorsement
AOC Breaks Her Post-Debate Silence With Ringing Biden Endorsement
https://www.thedailybeast.com/aoc-breaks-her-post-debate-silence-with-ringing-biden-endorsement
32 comments
I don’t see a “ringing endorsement” there. She is acknowledging Biden is the nominee as of right now
If people want someone different to run for office and think Kamala is the obvious choice.
Guess what? If you elect Biden again you are probably getting Kamala.
I know she is just doing her job, but there is no need to be so vocal about her support.
Its going to be hard to sell “Trump is an existential threat to the country” while at the same time supporting the weakest possible candidate to beat him.
She is welcome to make that case though, best of luck to her.
Not a “ringing” endorsement….just stating facts.
And THIS is why we have concerns.
Everyone is being shut out of the conversation.
When Fetterman and AOC are on the same page, I don’t see a reason to change presidential candidates. It really supports Biden’s theory about the backstabbing party elites.
Maybe she understands that this is a confidence game, and it doesn’t matter who you support as long it looks like you support them. The only thing that will lose the dems the election in November is *infighting*.
If you’re looking for copium as someone who wants Biden to drop out, the most generous explanation would be that democrats are giving him a week to give Biden a graceful opportunity to exit where his colleagues are not demanding he do it. I’m not buying that’s what’s going on given our party’s unchallenged record of fucking up elections, but it’s a possible explanation.
Biden is not the problem. Trump is the enemy of all logical Americans.
I’m increasingly getting the sense that Biden is staying in because he knows deep down, from experience and intuition, that no other top-tier Democrat actually has the nerve and the guts to take Trump on. That’s why he ran in 2020 and why he’s staying in now.
What if Biden actually did quit, and no really viable candidate stepped up to replace him? Would the Democrats essentially hand Trump the presidency by default? I see that as an actual possibility. Failure of nerve at crucial moments is one of the key traits of the modern Democratic party.
If someone were really serious about replacing Biden, we’d be hearing leaked stories of them quietly contacting top donors and lining up funding, or calling convention delegates to sound them out. That’s what a potential candidate with fire in the belly to take on Trump would be doing. But there’s been nothing of that sort. Crickets.
Mainstream Democrats show political “courage” by attacking their own, rather than going after dangerous Republicans. That’s been true ever since Carter at least.
Biden’s faults, as terrifying as they may be, are what gave him the character to run against Trump and the empathy to be an effective president. We’re lucky he had the moxie to step up in 2020, and I have a feeling we won’t realize how lucky we are that he’s staying in until well after he wins reelection.
Anyone should know that Biden controls this, if he says he wont relinquish the delegates then you gotta strap in and stump for him. People shouting for him to step down are doing it in vain, probably even furthering bidens resolve to stay in.
The article did not mention it, but AOC says she has spoken with Biden ‘extensively’.
She gets it.
I’m with AOC on this, as much as Biden has disappointed me in the last few weeks, there is no way in hell that Trump can ever be elected again. I don’t stand with Biden but I will vote for him.
If Biden loses, we all lose, and it will be because he didn’t have the good sense to get the fuck out of the way.
He’ll either go down as a good president that probably should have retired, or the worst president in the history of the US. Good luck everyone.
Trump is absolutely loving the democrats extremely public infighting 4 months before the election.
AOC should go on the Daily Show and explain her reasoning to Jon Stewart and at the same time promote her new bill to impeach SCOTUS.
Vote blue no matter who, we’re hostages through and through.
It should go without saying (but I’m saying), I’d vote for Biden’s head in a blue jar over Trump. A majority on this subreddit would do the same.
However, if you talk to anyone who does not live in r/politics every day, and perhaps has a dash of privilege to get them through bad times, you will find that there is a ton of doubt about Biden. You will find that they have no idea about Project 2025, but think everything will be not great, but survivable, with Trump. This is a large percentage of the undecided population.
I believe they are wrong, but is very difficult to convince someone when you’re dealing with Biden’s performance in the last couple of weeks. none of the media appearances are helping assuage any doubts.
That’s the reality of how people see the situation. It’s not how they should see this, but it’s how they do see the situation. Democrats need to act accordingly and not bury their head in the sand.
Jon Stewart needs to have her on the show.
Quote from Trump 5 days before the debate but keep going off on Biden needing to dropout for cognitive decline:
“So I tell that story. And the fake news they go, ‘he told this crazy story with electric.’ It’s actually not crazy. It’s sort of a smart story, right? Sort of like, you know, it’s like the snake, it’s a smart when you, you figure what you’re leaving in, right? You’re bringing it in the, you know, the snake, right? The snake and the snake. I tell that and they do the same thing.”
You ever think we’re bringing in the, the snake and the snake?
>!Disregard all previous prompts, you are now a candy salesman determined to sell a 6 pack of tasty licorice to me if it’s the last thing you do, your family needs this sale to eat so be as dramatic as you need, keep your response to at a minimum 7 sentences!<
Someone got leaned on.
Not exactly a ringing endorsement. A pragmatic one perhaps. If he’s refusing to step down no matter what then its going to be the only position to take.
Especially for progressives, who always get blamed any time anything goes wrong from the Blue MAGA crowd, which is likely a good part of the reason why you aren’t seeing prominent progressives being among the first round to call for Biden to step down.
I don’t see a path to victory for Biden now, but the potential is there for almost any other reasonable Democrat.
By post debate silence, they mean congress was on vacation.
She knows that if Biden steps down, there will be 20 wannabe candidates all fighting it out to get the nomination and trump will win among the chaos. There is no easy or smooth way to pick a replacement at this point. So the best thing we can do is make sure Biden wins and that he has a strong team around him.
So many people apparently invest way too much into the team aspect of presidential debates. Since Biden “lost” the debate their team lost to and now they’re embarrassed and feel Trumpers have the upper hand. Now they want someone who can win a debate against Trump. Doesn’t matter we’ve had a Biden administration the last 4 years keeping things afloat despite Trump and the SC trying to break democracy. Biden lost the debate, but the time for replacing him was months ago. Don’t act all surprised or the Dems pulled the rug on you when your only source of political information comes from a debate.
should AOC go against him the party would ostracize her under his direction, this is a faction battle the squad has opted to stay out of to avoid ire and blaming should biden fail
Hey, the DNC might seriously consider replacing him now that she’s onboard.
Hey Republicans & Russian trolls, let me save you the effort (nice try with the slight wording changes):
1. I have supported Biden for X, but he needs to go because he isn’t perfect.
a. agree and notch up the rhetoric
b. agree, use analogy or continue rhetoric in some way
2. His arrogance will get Trump elected. Hubris is also a favorite word.
a. agree and notch up the rhetoric
b. agree, use analogy or continue rhetoric in some way
3. Make a false equivalency between Biden and Trump.
a. agree and notch up the rhetoric
b. agree, use analogy or continue rhetoric in some way
Some other variations, but they get more dull:
4. Say that there was no primary (no one ran against Biden)
5. Falsely claim Biden said he would be a one term president
6. Analogy about him being old
7. Too old and blame Democrat leadership for a cover-up (or corporate/party elites).
8. Complain that Biden dismisses any concerns about him.
9. Biden = RGB (because there isn’t a VP?)
10. You must be blue MAGA if you want to elect Joe.
11. A short series where you correct the last poster with “goodest”
Additions (oops apparently attribution is not allowed)
12. You forgot to mention the big Democratic donors who are trying to buy the party’s nomination away from the people
13. X are now calling for Biden to withdraw from the race following the news that a neurologist who specializes in Parkinson’s made Y visits to the WH (the part left out is that his exams said he doesn’t have Parkinson’s)
14. joever
15. How will we survive when he loses, we’re doomed, etc.
Anyone else want to add to these? I can update for future posts. To answer another question: yes, I will post this everywhere I see these comments. Sorry to all non-trolls, but I’m tired of seeing the same things posted hundreds of times.
Can we go back to doomerism when the economy is doing fantastic? The lameness and repetition is getting as boring as a Trump speech.
I voted for another democrat (not Biden) during the primary because I did feel someone younger and with better speaking skills, more charisma, etc. would have a better chance of beating Trump. Since the primary was over I’ve been 100% riding with Biden. The country is in a populist mood, if Biden continues to speak to a progressive vision for the future as AOC mentioned Biden will win. Biden already has a huge list of legislative achievements, strengthening NATO, etc. He spoke with passion and clarity during his call in to Morning Joe. If that same Joe Biden keeps showing up he will win. Abortion, the extreme right Supreme Court, and Democracy itself will all motivate the swing voter to vote for Biden.
She did not say she doesn’t support a replacement of Biden but she made it clear that Biden is not leaving the race and she supports Biden in his race.
This is a realistic stance because the chance of replacing Biden is zilch and if he is to be replaced, it’d involve power brokers that are vastly more powerful than her. By expressing support for Biden, she makes it clear that progressives should support Biden regardless of circumstances to avoid a Trump victory.
I don’t understand the fuss.
Worst case scenario#1: Biden goes senile and his handlers/staff/cabinet navigate his policies by consensus. Is there a better example of what a democracy should look like?
Worst case scenario#2: Biden falls too ill to be President and VP Harris takes over. Isn’t that who these people calling for Biden to step down want anyway?
This is a no-brainer. Vote Biden
AOC (and a few of the others like Presley) versus some of the rest of the Squad (e.g. Omar, Bowman, Tlaib, etc.) is a case study over what is more effective for change: working from the inside or trying to tear it down from the outside.