Zelenskyy says the problem with the coming F-16 fighter jets is the same one Ukraine had with the Abrams tanks

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1. >When the Fox News host Bret Baier asked him at the Reagan Institute whether the 31 Abrams Ukraine received as its counteroffensive was already stumbling made a difference, Zelenskyy said, “I’m not sure that such number of tanks can change the situation on the battlefield.”

   >Speaking in Washington, DC, on Wednesday as the NATO summit was underway, he said, “It’s like the dialogue about F-16,” adding that usefulness came down, in some ways, to numbers and timing.

   >”We always wait, like my mother waited me after school,” Zelenskyy said. “This is the same but much more serious.”

   >”The problem with F-16,” the Ukrainian president said, “is the number and the dates.”

   >The Ukrainian President said that because Russia was operating so many combat aircraft “on the territory of Ukraine,” small numbers of F-16s wouldn’t make a difference.

   >”Even if we will have 50, it’s nothing. They have 300. Because we are defending, we need 128,” he said, adding that unless Ukraine had that amount of F-16s, they wouldn’t “compare with them in the sky.” He said that “it will be difficult.”

   A lot of Redditors are getting really angry when being informed about the realities of the Abrams and F-16 wunderwaffen.

2. Soooo, you have anticipated this and adapted accordingly, yes?

3. I’ve been saying this for months but when I said it I got downvoted by the 4 star reddit generals in this sub and called a putin puppet.

4. They are airframes and engines only! They stripped out most of the worthwhile avionics, which makes all the difference. It’s not honest. The West needs to quit holding back. Everyone see’s the theater clear as day here in Ukraine.

5. If the F-16s can cause problems for Russian jets dropping glide bombs then 20 or 50 F-16s will of course make a difference since at the moment Russian jets seem to be able to drop their bombs with impunity. When was the last time Ukraine shot down one of those jets?

   If F-16s won’t help because they are not equipped with modern missiles so Russia can continue to drop 100 bombs per day then I think someone needs to explain what exactly is the plan here?

6. Logistically, Ukraine cannot deal with more than a few F16s initially. They need the ground crews, pilots, spare parts and appropriate air bases that don’t get destroyed. It is way more complicated than tanks.

7. > whether the 31 Abrams Ukraine received

   31 tanks, that’s what was given. What a travesty.

   I see more and more what Zelensky means when he says that the usa just wants to look good, but doesn’t really want Ukraine to win. 🙁

8. So fucking tired of this shit. The planes had to be there a fucking year ago, they only supply shit when it’s too late and any previous momentum is lost.

9. >He compared the problem to Ukraine’s Abrams tanks, which it only got 31 of and hasn’t used much.

   It’s a logistics thing I believe. You don’t want to risk a precious, very limited resource or reserve of forces, so it never goes into combat.

10. Fuck the “we have to drip feed because we don’t wanna escalate with the Russians” when the Russians are the ones escalating.