Labour shelves foreign worker crackdown despite population surge

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1. A political party lying to get votes.

   Who would have thought?

2. Starmer must be fed up with the job already. He’s workings towards a one term government.

3. Wasn’t those exact figures reported on yesterday, albeit with a different title? 

4. I mean they’re delaying it until the second session of Parliament to allow for a consultation period.

   In any case the government (or any government) needs to be honest about why we’re so reliant on migration rather than continue to pander to anti migration sentiment.

   Pensioners are probably the most anti migration demographic and their pensions are propped up through migrants because of our falling birth rate.

   So I think it’s incumbent on any government to be able to articulate the consequences of reducing immigration before committing further damaging acts to our economy.

   It started with Brexit (which was never going to have any bearing on immigration figures) and because that didn’t work the Tories lurched further to the right and dragged Labour with it.

   Farage and his pals have done immeasurable damage to our country and will continue to do so until they run out of scapegoats or the electorate stops buying his bullshit.

5. Plain common sense.

   Despite 1m working age people migrating to the UK since 2019 our workforce is the same size it was then due to enormous drop out rate due to disability, particularly amongst the relatively young.

   In the short term the UK NEEDS pretty high levels of economic migration until the government can fix the NHS backlog and strengthen mental heath services and get disabled people back into work.

6. >The party is set to delay the introduction of two major legal changes to require bosses [to limit foreign labour](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/11/visas-fall-by-third-in-crackdown-on-immigrant-families/) until a second session of Parliament next year.

   >It means the two measures will not be included [in Wednesday’s King’s Speech](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/14/keir-starmer-target-shoplifters-knife-crime-kings-speech/), although Government sources said work to boost skills training would continue

   So like most manifesto commitments they are not going to be met in the first few weeks of the administration but may have to be moved to make parliamentary time for other issues, also manifesto commitments.

   The people moaning at this will not even remember moaning in a year when the legislation is moving through the house and will be outraged at another thing that is not actually outrageous.

7. Can we be mindful of baiting articles , rage bait etc?

   We live in an age where all people do is read the title and then go in to make a number of assumptions without reading an article .

   Even within in that, there isn’t a great deal of honest reporting these days in general and the whole idea is to stir sh*t

8. Why would you ever delay this when the problem keeps getting significantly worse as time goes by? Government is so painfully bureaucratic and slow that it’s no wonder why absolutely nothing gets done ever.

9. It’s not just “cheap foreign labour”. Skilled immigration is a major prop to the government budget as immigrants are overly represented in top earners, with as much as 25% of top 1% income earners being immigrants, and I’d hazard a guess an even larger proportion of 2nd generation immigrants. If we got rid of these people tomorrow, the size of the government gap would be so big we would have to practically get rid of the NHS to balance the budget again.

10. Hope it’s genuinely going to happen next year. I guarantee many in the Labour party are against it, being the Gen X and Boomers who have no idea what life is like for young people and believe Brits are work-shy, lazy and need to pull themselves by their bootstraps, because they entered the workforce in the 70s-90s before immigration took off. And the professional types who project their own disdain for doing certain jobs (such as manual labour ones) onto the British youth. But they think they know the experience of the lower socioeconomic classes, because their dad worked in a factory.

    Seems there’s the political equivalent of a cartel made up of the main parties (Labour, Con, LD and Green at least) when it comes to immigration and using it to avoid giving career opportunities or training to Brits. Reject British applicants for entry level roles or straight up don’t have entry level roles, hire pre-qualified staff from abroad, then lie saying Brits don’t want to work or are picky.
    Reform would be horrendous in power, but the main parties have let them have a monopoly on controlling immigration. Voted LD, Labour and Green in every general or local election, but I’m hoping Reform’s rise will get the other parties to wake up on immigration.

11. Let’s not forget this so called news article came from the Torygraph

12. Any conversation about immigration is a conversation about immigration, emigration, death and birth rates, demographic profiles, retirement ages, investment in training and a dozen other factors. It’s hugely complex, and “fixing” it by stopping immigration would create a mass of new problems to fix.

    The only people that reduce it to a single issue with a simple solution are the racists. The same people that demanded we Brexit to solve this same issue, only to make it worse.

    It needs sorting, certainly. But it isn’t strictly a problem to be solved, it’s actually a symptom of a bunch of other problems that politicians of all stripes have been trying to ignore for decades. Fix those problems and the immigration issue goes away as a result. But the fixes will be politically unpopular and painful for the population.

    Whether Labour have the will to grasp this nettle remains to be seen.

13. With an aging population, basically one of 3 things has to happen:
    * Increase immigration
    * Increase taxes
    * Increase retirement age

    No politician seems to be willing to have the grown up discussion about what combination of those we have to accept. It also doesn’t help when you have populists promising to try and reduce all of these.

14. Shame, but why can’t we just create a class of temporary worker visa, only allows you to live and work here for a few years, and your stay here is tied to a particular job. And to stop them disappearing into the general population withold wages until they are on the flight home.

15. What’s this? Another Telegraph article, that obfuscates context? My my, this sub is daring today…

16. I wonder if they have knowledge the self appointed migration experts of Reddit don’t

    Hmmm

17. Gee, another Telegraph article attacking Labour on this sub to generate engagement…

18. There has to be a differentiation between illegal immigration and skilled immigration.
    With one third of young people suffering from mental health related issues, Tories were chasing GPs and stopping them writing sick notes rather than solving the high cost of living, housing crisis and low paid wages causing these mental health issues. Our birth rates will plummet if this carries on as having children will become a privilege for the rich in the nearby future.
    Unfortunately Britain relies on foreign workers at present. Unless the anti immigration pensioners start filling up cheap jobs that no one else wants to do, the local businesses and economy will suffer. More so after Brexit.

19. To be introduced in August 2025 rather than now – that’s the good side.

    The bad side is that it’s the legislation that prevents companies hiring from overseas if they are convicted of mistreating overseas employees, and it’s the legislation that requires companies to train UK staff before recruiting from overseas.

    Then again, it’s the Torygraph, so take what they say with a pinch of salt.

20. Wow who could have predicted this?

    Hope the red wall face the full consequences of this, dumb fucks

21. At this point I look at the Telegraph in the same way as the Daily Mail and Sun. They’ve been in utter meltdown since Labour took charge, desperately throwing out hit pieces expecting everything to be fixed in a week. Embarressing.