Gareth Southgate resigns as England manager after Euro 2024 final defeat
https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jul/16/gareth-southgate-resigns-as-england-manager-after-euro-2024-final-defeat?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
by ClassicFlavour
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Inevitable. His contract was to expire in December anyway and he’d previously talked about staying on if England won this year’s tournament, which suggests he was a bit unsure.
His record can’t be argued with whatever people think of him or his tactics – the best since Alf Ramsey.
The best English manager of many of our life time and that’s a nailed down fact.
Southgate delivered a lot of a nation that consistently underperforms.
He’s going home, he’s going home, he’s going, Southgate’s going home.
He did a good job in restoring pride to representing your country and fostering a good team harmony but tactically he fell short and it shows in his record against the top teams.
That being said he gave us some great nights, created history and took us closer than any other manager since Ramsey so he deserves our gratitude.
In spite of the moaning over our playstyle under him, he can hold his head high. Two finals after 58 years. Sure, we didn’t win, but we were in contention. Picking England up after the disaster classes of 2014 and 2016. He’s been beyond expectations. I’ve been critical of him, too, for not being daring enough for not dropping underperformers when they should’ve been dropped. But he’s done what he was brought in for.
Hopefully, whoever comes in next, is the one to build on that, unleash the England side and evolve them to the next level.
He can be proud of the way the England team have become a cultural pillar for everyone in the country. The way he’s supported players in the face of racist abuse, and his advocacy for the women’s game along with the results on the pitch are good use of the opportunity.
Nevertheless, he’s undermined by stubbornness and favour towards certain players. Tactically too conservative to succeed with this generation of talented players. A tinkerer, not a visionary.
Unfortunately there is not a great abundance of football managers who are available for the job now.
Can’t wait to get someone else in so we can start going out in the group stages again.
Southgate may not have taken a trophy home, but he’s taken good players and done better than arguably any other manager in the last 58 years. If the next manager is smart, they’ll build off the team relationship dynamic he built up.
Quite right….inherited a toxic job nobody wanted by being the only candidate and clearly not up to the task. The pool of players is insane (even head to head with Spain, our players are higher/better) and despite that we play like a plucky underdog and with no flair
We have world class players, but tactically we were dreadful. We had literally the best possible draws both this and last Euros, if we were playing against Germany/Spain/Portugal in the round of 16 we would’ve not even got to quarters. Given how abyssmal we were at the start of the tournament and have gotten a little better each game over the course of the tournament, I doubt we would’ve won against Netherlands or France in the RO16 either.
Considering how almost every single player we have on the pitch is a key part of their respective club teams, moreso than most other national teams I would argue, we should not even be close to scraping by on a lucky goal against Slovakia or Switzerland.
He did well to bring us back up after a long period of rubbish but he just couldn’t seem to adapt the play style needed now and seemed hesitant to drop players who were dragging the team this time around.
He did a good job overall and definitely restored hope in the team. He wasn’t perfect but got more hate than he deserved when the results were far better than we’ve seen in awhile before him.
Thanks for the memories Gareth.
That said with 300m+ talent upfront he needed to be more attacking.
I watch super defensive football on a weekly basis with my local team as that is what the players afford. I kinda expect to see more from that bunch of players.
Either the players let him down, or he let them down.
I like Gareth as a man and for the way he’s taken the team past the “lad” culture it used to have.
But I maintain he’s been *incredibly* lucky with the teams he’s come up against. Against decent teams England has basically gone onto lose every time.
In this Euros we were a fag paper away from going out against Slovakia.
The only time England ever looks dangerous is when they go on the attack – but that’s not how Gareth plays. This group of players needs somebody to get them attacking like how Spain does. When England attacked Spain they were on the ropes.
Get Klopp in.
A tragedy, he’s been bullied out. The idiots booing their own team do not represent the quiet majority of England fans who are beyond grateful to Gareth Southgate for finally delivering an England team that can reach the late stages of major tournaments.
Hopefully Rio Ferdinand becomes the next England manager.
If he had been willing to look past his favourites he would have won something. Kane killed this team and he refused to change ot
I’m sad about this, but think it’s probably the right thing. Southgate deserves nothing but praise for his complete transformation of the team culture, integrating younger players with massive success, changing the way the team relates to the outside world, and his impressive tournament runs.
Southgate did a fantastic job as our manager and despite some hiccups with our team (Kane was shit throughout the entire tournament, Foden underperformed and we were literally seconds away from losing to Slovakia), he brought us to a back-to-back Euro final. All the people calling for his resignation throughout the tournament were the kind of idiots who think they could do better because they clocked a few hundred hours of time of play time on Football Manager.
Previous managers faltered outside of the group stage, and are a big reason why our only crowning achievement in men’s football was holding the Jules Rimet 58 years ago.
It’s remarkable how we have one of the most lucrative club leagues in the world with some of the world’s most overpaid players yet until recently have been shit on the international stage.
Also, can we please ditch It’s Coming Home as a football song? It’s overplayed, it paints our nation as a bunch of crybabies with a victim complex because we haven’t won a trophy in almost six decades, it’s annoying as fuck and it feels as if David Baddiel has put a voodoo curse upon us.
So, how long until he gets his knighthood?
For what it’s worth, I think it’ll be well deserved.
Now all the Wetherspoons fat fucks can show us how it’s done.
On one hand he got to 2 semis and a final on the other hand he had a golden generation and got the luckiest draws I’ve ever seen 3 tournaments in a row and with the exception of beating Germany and maybe the Dutch he lost to the first good team they played every time.
What we needed when he got the job, and we should be thankful for how he detoxified the culture around the team.
The fact is that the squad outgrew him. What made him successful was picking the players for his system, and he frankly isn’t good enough to play any other way. This was exposed this tournament massively, but also in general when we played tactically better drilled teams, which, thanks to lucky draws, was quite rare.
Thank fuck for that, absolutely stealing a living being our manager for so long.
I feel like it’s more a case of resigning after getting us to the final, than resigning after being defeated in the final.
Good riddance. Now let’s get someone who knows how to play attractive, attacking football.
He did really well and we got pretty far under him, but going by Sunday it’s definitely time for a change up.
This is the right choice considering he has done this for 8 years.
He has done a wonderful job in restoring England’s self belief and reputation and he achieved more than any England manager in the last 50 years. He’s being criticised a lot, but I bet he will be missed in the future.
Steadied the ship, but choked at critical times, even with the luck of the draw on more than one occasion.
Here’s to hoping we get someone who’s willing to take risks going forward with world class players.
Did well and has some great achievements to his name, didn’t deliver the top prize though and that’s what he’ll ultimately be remembered for.
It’s fine to acknowledge that he was great but not excellent and the results will attest to this fact.
We thank him for his good service to the national team and wish him well in future ventures.
Cannot complain too much over his record, he took the national team from a bit of a joke, with overpaid and underperforming stars, to getting to successive finals. However, he’s kind of like a manger who has taken a team from league one and into the premiership, he now has better players but doesn’t really now how to play them. Superb organisation got him very far, just not over the line.
I’m so thankful for Southgate. He’s given my Son such and enjoyable football experience over the years he has been in charge. I have nothing bad to say about this man. He has been so consistent in delivery of good results and I accept how challenging consistency in execution is. Respect to him.
In spite of criticisms with his managerial style, he’s given England their best performance in decades. Two Euro finals and two World Cup semi finals is a decent run for a team that could barely get their trousers on in the group stages not that long ago.
The next manager has got some pretty big boots to fill. As long as they can whip the lads into shape and sort out the midfield, it’ll be coming home.
Such a shame, a decent man who did the best he could with tools provided.
Good for him. England doesn’t deserve him and they will never have the run of performances they have had under his Coaching for a long time.
Good.
There’s far too much talent on the England squad to waste with this anxious, conservative style of play Southgate fashioned. Let them take risks for fuck’s sake.
Good. He’s the barrier to success for this truly golden generation of talent. The handbrake can now be released.
Scottish bloke here. Southgate has taken you further than anybody for decades and that shouldn’t be forgotten. He’s done a great job in that regards. And he comes across as a really nice bloke with no rumoured arguments in the within the team or anything. But he has seemed to have reached his ceiling, losing 2 euros finals on the bounce confirms that imo. Same as us with Clarke, took us to two euros for the first time since 98 if you count the world cup, but done fuck all with those opportunities. I wish Southgate all the best
I have never enjoyed watching England more than when Gareth has been in charge. I hope another English former international player is hired because I think they have unique insight that allows them to bond with the players and have their respect.
Best England manager for a long time but unfortunately he doesn’t seem capable of winning trophies. This is probably as far as he is going to get and if he carries on his reputation could take a serious blow. He may as well go out on a high point for his own sake as much as anything
Really disappointing.
Hes the best manager I’ve seen in my 40 years. 2 finals and a semi, England weren’t just competitive, they didnt just have a chance, they were right there amongst the best.
Will a new manager improve it? Maybe. But the sheer pressure on the manager coming in is imense. They fail if they dont get to the finals of the world cup or win the next euro’s. Thats the marker they’ve put down. WC finals, EC win – all within the next 4 years.
Could Southgate do it? Maybe not, maybe he has reached his potential of how he can manage that team. But if the next manager goes out lets say quarters or semis, questions might be asked. If the next manager gets them playing more attacking, but still doesnt get that win in the finals.
Southgate has resigned, but I think he had a lot of internal pressure on that. I mean how many commentators were asking for his sacking on the night, I think a couple did.