New Audio Reveals J.D. Vance’s Deep Hatred for Trump

https://newrepublic.com/post/183892/audio-jd-vance-hated-trump

31 comments
  1. How recent is the audio from?

    EDIT: 2016. Practically a lifetime ago.

  2. Of course he hates Trump. But that doesn’t matter to Trump. As long as he helps him get elected, that’s all that matters.

    He is proof that all despots care about is that you bend the knee.

  3. Pointing out hypocrisy is a losing strategy. Particularly with the right. Trump was a Clinton donor. They don’t care and this doesn’t matter.

  4. Here’s where the problem is going to be…

    This guy (Vance) is young & has a smut mouth. Pence wasn’t like that. He was easier to control in his little chicken coop.

    Pence was easy to shove around. Vance is gonna shove back & that’s not gonna work with Trump.

    I think Trump made a mistake with this one. Vance is as crazy as he is & two men with this exact same personality are going to cut each other’s heads off.

    I don’t see these two lasting 3 months together without some major blowup.

    The only reason this guy got picked was because Trumps kids like him.

  5. This is like everyone in the party really. Getting to loathe and self loathe, but being complacent as long as it puts them in front, though without dignity, in their zero sum game.

  6. So what’s going on here? He’s just using Trump as his gateway to the presidency?

  7. I wouldn’t be surprised if the big plan is to move trump out of the way very quickly after he’s elected to facilitate the execution of project 2025 by the far more focused and extreme individuals.

  8. Vance says he changed his idea of trump after getting to know him. So people should ask him, if your opinions change so radically then why should we believe anything you say right now?

  9. “I think he is leading the white working class to a very dark place”.

    Well you were right on the money back then, Mr Vance.

  10. This isn’t going to change anything. Trump and Vance will continue to play nice as long as they both find the arrangement beneficial, and Trump’s base has been through enough cognitive dissonance to not care as long as Trump likes him.

  11. To be fair, I’m sure a list of potential VP picks that *didn’t* hate Trump would surely be a small one.

  12. This means nothing to his supporters. He contradicts himself every 24-48 hours and they still follow them. I don’t think they will care about anything Vance said until now. I do, however, see Vance potentially being the Trump campaigns downfall. He is messy and not anything like Pence. He will slip up and cause drama in house.

  13. This is no accident.

    Narcissists, and especially authoritarian narcissists, can’t stand anyone in their presence who could be a threat. More clever, more liked, more competent. Taller. Not allowed.

    So naturally, they pick people they hate to be their right hand men. This also comes in handy later when it’s time to throw them under the bus.

    So predictable. This is why men like Trump are always losers. They are incredibly easy to play.

  14. This isn’t going to change a single Trump voter’s mind. Not sure what these kinds of articles are meant to achieve. I talk to Trump voters. There’s nothing you can say that will stop them from voting for Trump.

  15. I think J.D. Vance played this one right. All he needs to do is outlast Trump. For when the great turd keels over on the his golden crapper and dies, Vance will ascend the throne, claiming the left assassinated the orange messiah while he was taking his morning dump, and the chaos will reign with Vance as the new puppet, whose strings are pulled by the likes of the Elons and Kochs.

  16. That’s the most ridiculously overkill ear pillow I’ve ever seen. He’s really milking that cut.

  17. Can someone just buy ad space and play the audio?

  18. With as crazy as this timeline is, I am gonna posit that Vance is like Snape, playing along for now and then when the time comes, push trumpkin aside and come out as a socialist. I dunno, gonna go and have a drink.

  19. >“I don’t think he actually cares about folks,” said Vance on The Matt Jones Podcast in August 2016. “I think I’m going to vote third party because I can’t stomach Trump. I think that he’s noxious and is leading the white working class to a very dark place,” he told NPR that same month.

    Really, really fantastic ad material to convince reluctant trump voters it’s okay to stay home or vote for RFK

  20. All Democrats and opposing parties, repeat after me – in the face of all excuses, “evidence”, or talking points: “Not even his vice presidential nominee LIKES HIM.” Repeat ad infinitum.

  21. JD expects to ascend to the presidency rather quickly…

  22. He’s the perfect GOP politician. He’s perfectly willing to compromize Any moral or ethical stance in the pursuit of power.

  23. 😂 great way to start off your political partnership.😂

  24. How long before trump starts humiliating Vance and his wife

  25. The Dems ARE going to use these clips for an ad, right? *right?*

  26. It’s weird that the Internet name police that always seem to be insisting that people like Ted Cruz or Nikki Haley go by the names they were born with are silent about James Donald Bowman going by JD Vance.

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