Behind the Curtain: Top Democrats now believe Biden will exit
https://www.axios.com/2024/07/18/president-biden-drop-out-election-democrats
Behind the Curtain: Top Democrats now believe Biden will exit
https://www.axios.com/2024/07/18/president-biden-drop-out-election-democrats
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By God that’s Kamala’s music!
Now we move to Shapiro or Pritzker for VP? I would be shocked if they try to do an open convention at this point
Need to make a decision soon. The indecisiveness in Democratic party benefits MAGA. The Democratic party needs to unite just like the RNC united behind Trump.
I’ll believe it when I see it, but this is a positive development.
People have suggested he do it during Trump’s speech — a great idea.
I REALLY hope this is true. In that case, we need an alternate……and fast!
Imagine if he made the announcement to drop from the race in the middle of Trump’s RNC speech tonight.
Step out of the race endorse Harris and free her up the rest of the term to campaign nonstop while you start preparing for a very smooth transition to her.
When he is replaced, we owe it to his replacement to donate some funds. Said person needs all the help we can give them. And such financial endorsement can move mountains of support.
If (and I do stress if) this happens, three things need to happen:
1) The DNC needs to have all of their ducks in a row regarding funding, campaigning, impending litigation, etc.
2) The Democratic Party needs to be unanimous behind who they support (or at the very least publicly). The amount of in-fighting has self-immolated the party to the same extent the GOP did during the Speaker votes.
3) The announcement needs to be timed right to ensure both wide exposure and to generate public good will throughout the weekend. Ideally, you do it during the RNC to steal their thunder and show the country “Hey, this is more important, we do have a strategy.”
I’ve always been in the camp that whatever the Democratic Party does, it needs to do it quickly.
I’m not advocating for keeping Joe, I’m not advocating for kicking him out.
I’ve seen the polls, and although I have little faith in polls, Biden’s age is beginning to show, and I can see how that would easily hold a lot of water with an average voter. Whatever we do, it needs to be done yesterday, and the party doesn’t need to cannibalize itself or squabble internally, as it so loves to do.
They are waiting for after the convention. The Ds do not want to give the RNC any bullet points against the next nominee while they have the stage.
Not the main relevancy of the moment, but looking ahead, I think this is a big win for alternative media. Ezra Klein (who I know is with the NYT but he’s a brand of his own), the “Pod Bros”, and the Trump defectors like Tim Miller and those Axe aligns with on Hacks on Tap etc were advocating this and reading the writing on the wall early on. Traditional media was happy to bet on the narrative that seemed most likely and then play the game for clicks. So many articles on the same day would be “Dems set to lose” vs “Biden leading in polls”; “Move against Biden to drop out are over” vs “Dems double down on call to remove top of ticket”. All stated in absolutes and in constant contradiction. Traditional media have trashed their own creditability in a race to be the first to make the hottest take, confident that if their position is wrong it’ll be lost in the constantly shifting headlines but if it is right it’s a meal ticket they can ride to new fame. If Biden steps aside, which now does seem likely, it will be from a resilient coordinated effort that was made possible by alternative media fanning the flames of the general Dem voting public that gave a foundation to political leaders to leverage the argument to their caucus for the push required.
Figure it out
Obama is gonna light shit up at the convention in Chicago this August. I know it’s been bleak, but fuck if that isn’t gonna feel good.
Hopefully Biden pulls it together for the speech of his career to tee up Harris.
The market just took a nose dive, they know something we don’t. He’s out for sure
I will vote for Biden. I will vote for Harris. I will vote for whomever it is. Just, please, not Trump-Vance.
My main concern is what are people going to do with all their FJB decals on their trucks?
If Kamala can actually do the job., Joe Biden dropping out *and* resigning would give her a huge chance to win
**F5 F5 F5 F5 F5**
Question is. And I don’t know how else to ask this but, will Kamala who doesn’t have the best PR team and doesn’t have any real public “connection”? “Star power”? Be able to rally democrats and the public against Trump in such a short time?
Of course he will. I expect it to be any day/hour. COVID is the health issue he needed.
The second I heard Adam Schiff was publicly calling for it, I thought, “Okay, now we wait for Nancy to make a statement, because that’s how far up the Democratic power pole this has gotten.”
I think the writing is pretty clearly on the wall and I hope they come up with a damn good and frankly at least a little exciting plan B.
Can’t wait to see all the excuses here for why “I can’t vote for” his replacement.
“Top democrats finally almost listen to their constituents.” FIFY
If Kamala Harris takes over, Trump will refuse to debate her because he would be slaughtered.
RBG taught us a tough lesson. Pull out early.
Thank god please do. Enjoy your time at the beach in the sun!
If the stakes weren’t so high, this would be the most interesting political drama ever.
Coconuts rising.
The Dems better have a plan and a candidate, they push Biden out and lose it will be an all time failure.
They are already modifying every remaining speech. Quitting during the RNC isn’t the dagger people think it is. Wait for Monday and you have the camera’s undivided attention.
Really hope they know what they are doing and have a good replacement.
Harris is not a winning ticket, sorry she isn’t. She will not pull in anybody on the fence or over party lines. She has little experience to run on and the chaos the change will make will be the final nail. Mark Kelly is by far the best option to pull in undecided voters. They can only go after him over policy and orange doesn’t know policy, he only knows name calling. I’m voting blue no matter what but not thrilled about the party at the moment.
I’ll vote for a fucking doormat over Trump. If Biden is stepping aside, get on with it so the Dems stand a chance.
Well he did a great job despite having a hostile legislature. Too bad being old is worse than being a serial rapist and pedophile who openly plans on becoming an authoritarian ruler.
If only he wasn’t two years older than the serial rapist pedophile. Welp. There is nothing we could have done because he is old.
If Biden drops out, we will lose this election and plunge the country into darkness.
And we will deserve it.
We will deserve it because we couldn’t drop the pretty horseshit and get behind one of the better president’s we’ve seen in a long time.
Good luck everyone.
Dark times ahead