That will definitely stop people taking drugs and driving unaccompanied as a learner
I hope this will reduce the road deaths we’ve been seeing, but unless they start to address the other issues as well I’m not too sure if it’s going to work.
A lot of our roads are in a bad way, accidents occuring in parts of the road that are known to be dangerous, mobile use, drunk/drug driving all need to be looked at too, a blanket speed reduction isn’t going to change much.
So, the “default” limit will be 60 rather than 80, for local roads. Not “all” local roads will drop to 80. Quite a lot of rural roads are regional roads already, which is a different category. National roads will be reviewed separately. I think the dropping of the default urban limit from 50 to 30 might cause more complaints – see Wales, where they reduced urban speed limits from 30mph to 20mph last year, and they’re changing some of them back to 30mph. Hopefully the Irish version will be an actual review and not just a blanket change.
Sound rsa that won’t stop me going 120 or using my phone 🙌🏼
If people speeding on rural roads are the cause of so many crashes then surely lowering the speed limit does nothing as they have already been ignoring them anyway?
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To generally address the many stupid comments already infecting the thread.
– yes, reducing speed limits are effective in general.
People tend to either aim for the speed limit, or to speed relative to the speed limit.
That is. even rule breakers (which is all of us, probably), tend to confine speeding to some relative amount over the speed limit. So reducing speed limits leads to generally lower speeds on the road.
just waiting for the healy-raes to find issue with this..
For idiots that drive like maniacs, all it will do is reduce the speed at which they crash… Amazing.
For everyone else, our journey times will increase quite a bit.
In some respects this will revert back to sanity cos some of the “80 kph” roads I’ve driven on in the countryside are 60 anyway, tops. You’d have to be mad in the head to bomb around them at anything over 70. I’m sure folk know the type I’m talking about
Just to translate the news article is all about the government wanting to make more money by going for the low hanging fruit and catching you doing 2kmh over the speed limit by the local Garda that everyone can’t stand. At the same time there’s little feral shits on scrambles driving around like it’s mad max. This country is fucked.
The RSA should do a targeted media campaign at older drivers to educate them on etiquette on the road. Basic things like pulling in when holding up traffic would driving their Yaris or Micras on country roads where overtaking is difficult would be far more effective at limiting traffic accidents than this nonsense. Tossers who speed in country roads are not going to stop speeding, or reduce their speed because of new limits
Great news 🙌
Great that will stop me being on my phone driving.
It seems to me that the government has too much money to waste so going to change speed limite and all the signs will need to be replaced costing millions. It is in my opinion that people driving on roads like national one at 60 kph is the problem and if they can;t got to at least 100 in 120 zones shouldn’t be allowed on them as it is frustrating when they come out to overtake a truck for example and don’t inscrease their speed when doing so. This is a cause of accidents. Another is when they join the road eg I witnessed on on the opposite side of the M50 a guy joining obviously didn’t look and was hit byt a truck as he was below the view of the truck driver also didn’t increase speed either from what I saw and was pushed for a good way down the road in front of the truck. These are things that cause accidents by people who are not confident or able to do things correctly. I also think training needs to be done for people for driving on a national raod.
Maybe the shite state of the roads might also be the problem. That costs money though.
That should slow them down….lol
> An issue arose with sharing that data, GDPR and due to other technical reasons it was actually flagged by the local authorities themselves. They said look, we’re not comfortable receiving this data for various technical legal reasons.
Ah, I can imagine how those conversations went…
RSA: “So in the past two years there have been X RTAs at this particular curve…
Council: “Aaaaaa stop, don’t tell us that, or we’ll actually have to do something about it!”
RSA: “…What?!”
Council: “…Um…I mean…GDPR! Yes, that’s right, GDPR! Totally illegal, we can’t know all that! Data protection and such, you know how it is, terrible shame really but what can you do? Oh well.”
Ex road engineer here – Council and private.
This is bullshit and annoys me.
Local roads were always 80. We need to look at why this is needed now.
Release all accident data. Itemise by location and reason. Find the bad roads. Put them down to 60.
I know for a fact that there is more issues here than GDPR. That is being used as an excuse. I’ve also been told what this issue is but won’t out it in writing here as I cannot confirm, but it came from a Snr engineer in a LA working in roads.
Also yet again and I’ve seen this genuinely so often – legislation being led by Dublin (yes I’m aware of where the TII and Rsa are based) for rural areas with a massive disconnect.
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That will definitely stop people taking drugs and driving unaccompanied as a learner
I hope this will reduce the road deaths we’ve been seeing, but unless they start to address the other issues as well I’m not too sure if it’s going to work.
A lot of our roads are in a bad way, accidents occuring in parts of the road that are known to be dangerous, mobile use, drunk/drug driving all need to be looked at too, a blanket speed reduction isn’t going to change much.
So, the “default” limit will be 60 rather than 80, for local roads. Not “all” local roads will drop to 80. Quite a lot of rural roads are regional roads already, which is a different category. National roads will be reviewed separately. I think the dropping of the default urban limit from 50 to 30 might cause more complaints – see Wales, where they reduced urban speed limits from 30mph to 20mph last year, and they’re changing some of them back to 30mph. Hopefully the Irish version will be an actual review and not just a blanket change.
Sound rsa that won’t stop me going 120 or using my phone 🙌🏼
If people speeding on rural roads are the cause of so many crashes then surely lowering the speed limit does nothing as they have already been ignoring them anyway?
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To generally address the many stupid comments already infecting the thread.
– yes, reducing speed limits are effective in general.
People tend to either aim for the speed limit, or to speed relative to the speed limit.
That is. even rule breakers (which is all of us, probably), tend to confine speeding to some relative amount over the speed limit. So reducing speed limits leads to generally lower speeds on the road.
just waiting for the healy-raes to find issue with this..
For idiots that drive like maniacs, all it will do is reduce the speed at which they crash… Amazing.
For everyone else, our journey times will increase quite a bit.
In some respects this will revert back to sanity cos some of the “80 kph” roads I’ve driven on in the countryside are 60 anyway, tops. You’d have to be mad in the head to bomb around them at anything over 70. I’m sure folk know the type I’m talking about
Just to translate the news article is all about the government wanting to make more money by going for the low hanging fruit and catching you doing 2kmh over the speed limit by the local Garda that everyone can’t stand. At the same time there’s little feral shits on scrambles driving around like it’s mad max. This country is fucked.
The RSA should do a targeted media campaign at older drivers to educate them on etiquette on the road. Basic things like pulling in when holding up traffic would driving their Yaris or Micras on country roads where overtaking is difficult would be far more effective at limiting traffic accidents than this nonsense. Tossers who speed in country roads are not going to stop speeding, or reduce their speed because of new limits
Great news 🙌
Great that will stop me being on my phone driving.
It seems to me that the government has too much money to waste so going to change speed limite and all the signs will need to be replaced costing millions. It is in my opinion that people driving on roads like national one at 60 kph is the problem and if they can;t got to at least 100 in 120 zones shouldn’t be allowed on them as it is frustrating when they come out to overtake a truck for example and don’t inscrease their speed when doing so. This is a cause of accidents. Another is when they join the road eg I witnessed on on the opposite side of the M50 a guy joining obviously didn’t look and was hit byt a truck as he was below the view of the truck driver also didn’t increase speed either from what I saw and was pushed for a good way down the road in front of the truck. These are things that cause accidents by people who are not confident or able to do things correctly. I also think training needs to be done for people for driving on a national raod.
Maybe the shite state of the roads might also be the problem. That costs money though.
That should slow them down….lol
> An issue arose with sharing that data, GDPR and due to other technical reasons it was actually flagged by the local authorities themselves. They said look, we’re not comfortable receiving this data for various technical legal reasons.
Ah, I can imagine how those conversations went…
RSA: “So in the past two years there have been X RTAs at this particular curve…
Council: “Aaaaaa stop, don’t tell us that, or we’ll actually have to do something about it!”
RSA: “…What?!”
Council: “…Um…I mean…GDPR! Yes, that’s right, GDPR! Totally illegal, we can’t know all that! Data protection and such, you know how it is, terrible shame really but what can you do? Oh well.”
Ex road engineer here – Council and private.
This is bullshit and annoys me.
Local roads were always 80. We need to look at why this is needed now.
Release all accident data. Itemise by location and reason. Find the bad roads. Put them down to 60.
I know for a fact that there is more issues here than GDPR. That is being used as an excuse. I’ve also been told what this issue is but won’t out it in writing here as I cannot confirm, but it came from a Snr engineer in a LA working in roads.
Also yet again and I’ve seen this genuinely so often – legislation being led by Dublin (yes I’m aware of where the TII and Rsa are based) for rural areas with a massive disconnect.