Ah, sure we solve our issues with a few slaps followed by pints that hurt to drink over a fat lip. Not like we have snipers in towers like in the US. And we’ve never had a serial killer. Sound auld shpot
I was saying this to my uncle the other day.
>You know crime rates are at the lowest level they’ve been in 20 years here?
>Really, wow
>So then why is everyone saying the country is going to absolute shit?
>The country is going to absolute shit
People do not live in reality
I’ve never felt safer thsn in Iceland.
You see how relaxed everyone is and kids off playing on their own.
Its lovely
Take that Austria! Feels good also the UK isn’t even on the list.
It’s pretty shameful that a country where you have a non-zero chance of being murdered by an angry volcano is still safer than here! /s
Everywhere is safe until some scrote convinces you otherwise.
Suck it, Denmark!!
It’s interesting to look at the population densities of safer or not safer countries. Realistically I’d say a certain % of humans are scum. The more humans you cram together the more scum you get, the more the scum have chances to ruins others lives. Plus (personal opinion) crowded, busy, bustling cultures tend to include a lot of stresses which leads to trouble as well. A big decider is how the culture develops to tolerate or not tolerate trouble.
Ireland is a very, very safe country. The only place I don’t feel safe is r/ireland.
Crime is at a very low rate .
But the ability to know about every last bit of it through mass media means your perception of its rate is higher.
Add to that knowing about someone getting mugged in Kuala Lumpur through facebook. And your thinking is “the world is fucked”
If you spend all your days online, milling about social media, of course yo’ull convince yourself anything and anywhere is terrible. Misery likes company, and has never been truer today.
You wouldn’t think it anyway especially with tourists getting attacked but yeah good on you everyone for not all turning to crime.
Now if you could just stop doing hard drugs and funding the criminals that’s be greaaaaat 👍
Islands are safer, isolated, mountainous countries are safer and tiny countries are safer. More breaking news at 11.
I’d feel safer in any of those countries capitals than I ever would in Dublin.
how the fuck is new zealand on this list? i live in nz and thats bullshit. ive had lockdowns at school from people having weapons. and having one of the largest church shootings in recent history isnt a good sign either.
Ireland is an incredibly safe country. It’s one of the main reasons I moved here (so it would be safe for my little one).
I’m a bit surprised the Isle of Man isn’t up there.
It was about 20 years ago in the US, maybe longer, that a well-known conservative commentator was banging on about crime and murder, and how more needed to be done, and the President and government was failing in their duty.
He was informed that in fact the crime rate in the United States had been dropping consistently for years, having peaked in the 1970s or 1980s.
And his response was, “Yes, but according to polls, the *fear* of crime is higher than it’s ever been. Which proves we have to do something about it”.
I feel like we’ve come to the same place, we’re just a number of years behind. The 24/7 news and social media nonsense is all just hype hype hype. And it’s not the tabloids either, they’re all at it now. RTE, Irish Times, Examiner. Whatever can grab people’s attention, whether it’s exceptional or not.
As a result, people think things are out of control.
Maybe the Press Council needs to come up with a new code of conduct which requires media to appropriately classify and promote stories.
Taoiseach Resigns = National news, headline importance
Murder = National news, high importance
Rape = Regional news, high importance
Assault = Local news, high importance
etc.
Stop putting every incident where someone gets punched in the face on O’Connell street on the front page of rte.ie.
Iceland is a damn volanco! I prefer my current distance from angry planet-juice
“Crime is at an all time high!”
“No it isn’t.”
“Ah, but the fear of crime is at an all time high!”
Fuck that. Iceland sits on top of a mantle plume and has numerous active volcanoes which could literally murder the entire population at any moment. We should be number one, Iceland have clearly engaged in shenanigans.
I dont disagree that we are a very safe country and may be its due to my partner being a solicitor but I see such a low level of crime as maybe not a real representation of how things are.
At least 40% of the kids from my primary school class have grown up into a part of the drug trade. Then years later Im going to DIFE on the edge of Moneymore during the chaos in Drogheda a few years ago, genuinely driving past armed guards and amoured vehicles Monday to Friday. Now Im watching buildings be burnt down on a monthly if not weekly basis because of a right wing agenda that is slowly building a hatred towards foreigners.
You can say overall crime rates are lower but from what Ive seen the level of Anti-social behaviour starting from young ages is through the roof and the damage of each crime seems to be far higher than I have ever seen.
One important factor that these rankings will look at that we probably take for granted is actually terrorism threats. Nowadays, even with our not-so-distant past containing the threat of domestic terrorism, the risk is quite low in Ireland for those kinds of attacks. We are a neutral country so we haven’t made a lot of “enemies” abroad that may wish to harm us.
Compare that to somewhere like Spain, which I think in everyday terms is safer than Ireland, but scores more poorly because there have been several terrorist attacks over the years. It has had not just domestic terror from ETA and the Basque country, which has now also ceased, but Islamist terrorism. There was a major attack on a Madrid’s main train station in 2004 which killed almost 200 people, and several smaller but still significant attacks such as someone driving a van into one of Barcelona’s busiest streets in 2017, killing 13 and injuring over 100 more.
Having said that, leaving terrorist attacks aside, it is much safer to walk down the street in a typical Spanish city at night than the typical Irish city, and I would put that down to less drugs/alcohol and less of a culture of fighting.
“The Global Peace Index is developed in consultation with an international panel of peace experts from peace institutes”. A major part of the measure is expenditure on defence and size of armed forces. The index favours those who outsource their defence.
When you live in a place that is safe and where so little happens it means everything makes the news and makes it seems worse than it is. In other countries things that are reported here its equivalent would never have made the news because it happens so often they barely bat an eyelid.
I can’t really think of any other country where pratically ever road death is reported.
That doesn’t mean we have no issues. On the contrary it puts us in a position to have the ability to be aware of issues that other countries wouldn’t take as seriously. Such as road deaths.
If you look at the criteria it’s not surprising that we feature on the top of the list over other countries, but the lack of internal conflicts, terrorism deaths, ect doesn’t invalidate the view that Dublin and cities are very aggressive and hostile. Many of the posts on Reddit are about people not reporting crime because nothing will happen and about teenagers getting away with things.
We should have a good perspective on the relative safely of our country. That doesn’t mean we can’t try to eliminate things that are making people here miserable. The unease people feel in Dublin city centre isn’t just media reporting.
Been to Portugal and Lisbon a good few times now. Always struck by the amount of police floating around. Even in the shopping centres you see police just patrolling around the place. Seems to be more of a focus on having areas you patrol day in day out.
While it’s very random in Ireland. Like you should be able to say with some certainty there’s always going to be guards patrolling up and down Henry St/Grafton st for example, but it’s not the case. They are around sometimes but it seems a bit random.
Ireland is a super safe country but I love in slovenia now and don’t believe Ireland is that much safer, deffo not Dublin
A lot of people are commenting on this ranking just in terms of crime.
That’s topical and increasingly visible in Ireland. Fair enough. But looking that this comes from a body called the Institute for Economics and Peace I think there’s an overlooked reason why we top the poll.
Crime is just one dimension to safety and we are priviliged to have overlooked the others. Threat of invasion, civil war, terrorism, ethnic conflict etc etc are very real in many parts in the world.
I imagine our geopolitical position as a small, diplomatically successful and well-allied island at the edge of Europe contributes a lot more to this score than how Talbot street looks on a Friday evening.
No Japan?
We won’t be second for long. The country is in bits, the difference in 20 years is shocking. I miss the old ireland
This is the difference between statistics and fear mongering.
Ireland is safe, the news is poison
I would’ve (yank)
Everyone bar the Irish would’ve thunk it, but you guys complaining is probably why it’s so safe.
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Ah, sure we solve our issues with a few slaps followed by pints that hurt to drink over a fat lip. Not like we have snipers in towers like in the US. And we’ve never had a serial killer. Sound auld shpot
I was saying this to my uncle the other day.
>You know crime rates are at the lowest level they’ve been in 20 years here?
>Really, wow
>So then why is everyone saying the country is going to absolute shit?
>The country is going to absolute shit
People do not live in reality
I’ve never felt safer thsn in Iceland.
You see how relaxed everyone is and kids off playing on their own.
Its lovely
Take that Austria! Feels good also the UK isn’t even on the list.
It’s pretty shameful that a country where you have a non-zero chance of being murdered by an angry volcano is still safer than here! /s
Everywhere is safe until some scrote convinces you otherwise.
Suck it, Denmark!!
It’s interesting to look at the population densities of safer or not safer countries. Realistically I’d say a certain % of humans are scum. The more humans you cram together the more scum you get, the more the scum have chances to ruins others lives. Plus (personal opinion) crowded, busy, bustling cultures tend to include a lot of stresses which leads to trouble as well. A big decider is how the culture develops to tolerate or not tolerate trouble.
Ireland is a very, very safe country. The only place I don’t feel safe is r/ireland.
Crime is at a very low rate .
But the ability to know about every last bit of it through mass media means your perception of its rate is higher.
Add to that knowing about someone getting mugged in Kuala Lumpur through facebook. And your thinking is “the world is fucked”
If you spend all your days online, milling about social media, of course yo’ull convince yourself anything and anywhere is terrible. Misery likes company, and has never been truer today.
You wouldn’t think it anyway especially with tourists getting attacked but yeah good on you everyone for not all turning to crime.
Now if you could just stop doing hard drugs and funding the criminals that’s be greaaaaat 👍
Islands are safer, isolated, mountainous countries are safer and tiny countries are safer. More breaking news at 11.
I’d feel safer in any of those countries capitals than I ever would in Dublin.
how the fuck is new zealand on this list? i live in nz and thats bullshit. ive had lockdowns at school from people having weapons. and having one of the largest church shootings in recent history isnt a good sign either.
Ireland is an incredibly safe country. It’s one of the main reasons I moved here (so it would be safe for my little one).
I’m a bit surprised the Isle of Man isn’t up there.
It was about 20 years ago in the US, maybe longer, that a well-known conservative commentator was banging on about crime and murder, and how more needed to be done, and the President and government was failing in their duty.
He was informed that in fact the crime rate in the United States had been dropping consistently for years, having peaked in the 1970s or 1980s.
And his response was, “Yes, but according to polls, the *fear* of crime is higher than it’s ever been. Which proves we have to do something about it”.
I feel like we’ve come to the same place, we’re just a number of years behind. The 24/7 news and social media nonsense is all just hype hype hype. And it’s not the tabloids either, they’re all at it now. RTE, Irish Times, Examiner. Whatever can grab people’s attention, whether it’s exceptional or not.
As a result, people think things are out of control.
Maybe the Press Council needs to come up with a new code of conduct which requires media to appropriately classify and promote stories.
Taoiseach Resigns = National news, headline importance
Murder = National news, high importance
Rape = Regional news, high importance
Assault = Local news, high importance
etc.
Stop putting every incident where someone gets punched in the face on O’Connell street on the front page of rte.ie.
Iceland is a damn volanco! I prefer my current distance from angry planet-juice
“Crime is at an all time high!”
“No it isn’t.”
“Ah, but the fear of crime is at an all time high!”
Fuck that. Iceland sits on top of a mantle plume and has numerous active volcanoes which could literally murder the entire population at any moment. We should be number one, Iceland have clearly engaged in shenanigans.
I dont disagree that we are a very safe country and may be its due to my partner being a solicitor but I see such a low level of crime as maybe not a real representation of how things are.
At least 40% of the kids from my primary school class have grown up into a part of the drug trade. Then years later Im going to DIFE on the edge of Moneymore during the chaos in Drogheda a few years ago, genuinely driving past armed guards and amoured vehicles Monday to Friday. Now Im watching buildings be burnt down on a monthly if not weekly basis because of a right wing agenda that is slowly building a hatred towards foreigners.
You can say overall crime rates are lower but from what Ive seen the level of Anti-social behaviour starting from young ages is through the roof and the damage of each crime seems to be far higher than I have ever seen.
One important factor that these rankings will look at that we probably take for granted is actually terrorism threats. Nowadays, even with our not-so-distant past containing the threat of domestic terrorism, the risk is quite low in Ireland for those kinds of attacks. We are a neutral country so we haven’t made a lot of “enemies” abroad that may wish to harm us.
Compare that to somewhere like Spain, which I think in everyday terms is safer than Ireland, but scores more poorly because there have been several terrorist attacks over the years. It has had not just domestic terror from ETA and the Basque country, which has now also ceased, but Islamist terrorism. There was a major attack on a Madrid’s main train station in 2004 which killed almost 200 people, and several smaller but still significant attacks such as someone driving a van into one of Barcelona’s busiest streets in 2017, killing 13 and injuring over 100 more.
Having said that, leaving terrorist attacks aside, it is much safer to walk down the street in a typical Spanish city at night than the typical Irish city, and I would put that down to less drugs/alcohol and less of a culture of fighting.
“The Global Peace Index is developed in consultation with an international panel of peace experts from peace institutes”. A major part of the measure is expenditure on defence and size of armed forces. The index favours those who outsource their defence.
When you live in a place that is safe and where so little happens it means everything makes the news and makes it seems worse than it is. In other countries things that are reported here its equivalent would never have made the news because it happens so often they barely bat an eyelid.
I can’t really think of any other country where pratically ever road death is reported.
That doesn’t mean we have no issues. On the contrary it puts us in a position to have the ability to be aware of issues that other countries wouldn’t take as seriously. Such as road deaths.
If you look at the criteria it’s not surprising that we feature on the top of the list over other countries, but the lack of internal conflicts, terrorism deaths, ect doesn’t invalidate the view that Dublin and cities are very aggressive and hostile. Many of the posts on Reddit are about people not reporting crime because nothing will happen and about teenagers getting away with things.
We should have a good perspective on the relative safely of our country. That doesn’t mean we can’t try to eliminate things that are making people here miserable. The unease people feel in Dublin city centre isn’t just media reporting.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index
Been to Portugal and Lisbon a good few times now. Always struck by the amount of police floating around. Even in the shopping centres you see police just patrolling around the place. Seems to be more of a focus on having areas you patrol day in day out.
While it’s very random in Ireland. Like you should be able to say with some certainty there’s always going to be guards patrolling up and down Henry St/Grafton st for example, but it’s not the case. They are around sometimes but it seems a bit random.
Ireland is a super safe country but I love in slovenia now and don’t believe Ireland is that much safer, deffo not Dublin
A lot of people are commenting on this ranking just in terms of crime.
That’s topical and increasingly visible in Ireland. Fair enough. But looking that this comes from a body called the Institute for Economics and Peace I think there’s an overlooked reason why we top the poll.
Crime is just one dimension to safety and we are priviliged to have overlooked the others. Threat of invasion, civil war, terrorism, ethnic conflict etc etc are very real in many parts in the world.
I imagine our geopolitical position as a small, diplomatically successful and well-allied island at the edge of Europe contributes a lot more to this score than how Talbot street looks on a Friday evening.
No Japan?
We won’t be second for long. The country is in bits, the difference in 20 years is shocking. I miss the old ireland
This is the difference between statistics and fear mongering.
Ireland is safe, the news is poison
I would’ve (yank)
Everyone bar the Irish would’ve thunk it, but you guys complaining is probably why it’s so safe.