Homeless man who pushed Tube passenger on to tracks at Oxford Circus guilty of attempted murder

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1. Shorsh, who gave evidence through a Kurdish interpreter at his trial, had claimed he was “angry” at Mr Potoczek as he felt as though the postman had given him a dirty look, but he had not intended to try to kill him.

   What a cunt. Hopefully we can ship him out of the country, if not throw away the key when he’s locked up.

2. there was a serial killer on the underground ‘purported to have murdered up to 31 individuals between 1953 and 1983’ by doing exactly this..fantastic podcast series about it in the link below..but by the end youre wondering, was it actually him? mad stuff

   [https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.rte.ie/culture/2016/1230/833358-anatomy-of-an-irish-serial-killer-documentary-on-one/&ved=2ahUKEwi0rJmardGHAxUPVUEAHaeZM2wQFnoECBcQAw&usg=AOvVaw21ob9SqmQ_I1o880gG_haX](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.rte.ie/culture/2016/1230/833358-anatomy-of-an-irish-serial-killer-documentary-on-one/&ved=2ahUKEwi0rJmardGHAxUPVUEAHaeZM2wQFnoECBcQAw&usg=AOvVaw21ob9SqmQ_I1o880gG_haX)

3. Obviously, millions of people take the tube every day. It is crazy to me that more weird stuff doesn’t happen. So glad the postman survived.

4. Honestly if I wanted to have to deal with crazy Kurdish people and honour culture I’d move to Kurdistan. Why do I need to deal with them here again?

5. *After the verdict was announced Sam Barker, prosecuting, said Shorsh “has a large number – in a short time – of convictions for violence on members of tube staff and of the British Transport Police”.*

   *Tim Brown, defending Shorsh, said he is a “homeless refugee who has no contact with the NHS, let alone mental health services”.*

   Why was a refugee with a large number of prior violent convictions allowed to remain in the UK?

   How does the UK benefit from him being here?

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7. Some stats from around Europe on crime by immigrants. Posted for those who claim immigrants such as Kurds aren’t any more likely to commit crimes.

   – Denmark – “An index standardized for age shows that crime rates are 48% higher among male immigrants and 140% higher among male descendants of immigrants.[77]”

   – Finland – “According to 2014 official statistics, 24% of rapes are estimated to have been committed by individuals with foreign surnames in Finland.[92] For some context, foreign-language speakers and the foreign-born comprised roughly 6% of the Finnish population in 2014”

   – Italy – “According to the latest report by Idos/Unar, immigrants made up 32,6% of prison population in 2015 (four percentage points less than five years before),[129] immigrants making up 8,2% of population in 2015.”

   – Holland – “Analysis of police data for 2002 by ethnicity showed that 37.5 percent of all crime suspects living in the Netherlands were of foreign origin (including those of the second generation), almost twice as high as the share of immigrants in the Dutch population.”

   – Norway – “The overall probability that a person living in Norway would be convicted for a felony (Norwegian: forbrytelse) was increased by about 0.5 percentage points for the immigrant compared to non-immigrant populations for felonies committed in the years 2001–2004. The incidence was especially high among immigrants from Syria, Morocco, Somalia, Iraq, Iran (Incl. Kurdistan province) and Chile, and reached more than 2% in all these groups. In comparison”

   – Spain – “A 2008 study finds that the rates of crimes committed by immigrants are substantially higher than nationals”

   – Switzerland- “In Switzerland, 69.7% of the prison population did not have Swiss citizenship, compared to 22.1% of total resident population (as of 2008)”

   – Sweden – “A 2014 survey of several studies found that people with foreign background are, on average, two times more likely to commit crimes than those born in Sweden”

8. Insane that he wasn’t deported and that some people are against the idea of deportations

9. What were the injuries he sustained? Crikey, I thought you fall on those tracks you get instant electrocution before being hit by a train – either way I thought you die…

   Maybe my assumption is wrong but how is that anything but attempted murder?

   Fuck me – I’m British of Asian descent but idc – get this fella out of here.

10. Sure he’s the guy arrested for wanking outside a coffee shop a few years ago. 

11. This is why I never stand near the tracks. I have this big fear that someone will randomly push me down. That is why I stand at back.

    Also I remember in 2001, there was a barrier between the lines and the tube. What happened to that?

12. This happens on the NYC subway all the time but it’s not nearly as common here. To be honest I’m surprised this hasn’t happened here more often. I hope the victim in this case is okay.

13. Our prisons are already full. Send him back where he came from.

14. He’s got a big criminal record, he should be deported!