The homelessness and asylum accommodation issue would be solved overnight if the government would just stump up the per night rate on Air BnB.
Thanks, but we don’t have the accommodation available.
There’s a housing crisis. Feel absolutely free to come up with suggestions to solve that first.
You all need to offer your spare bedrooms, garages and sheds to help out your flailing gov…
Here’s a radical suggestion, how about we take the funding from these organisations that take posturing court cases against the state and use it to build houses?
Good! Now the high court made it official that we have a housing crisis. Now the government can’t just continue to ignore it and wait for the private sector to sort it out…
Moronic decision
If the number of admissions could be hard-linked to the provision of new units, I think it would go a long way.
E.g. if 10,000 are admitted then accommodation for at least 10,000 must be provided. If previous goals haven’t been met, then the number of new admissions is reduced until the system catches up.
It was an appaling waste of money to try to even defend this.
It was as plain as day.
Phase 2 of this will be the damages claims.
McEntee and O’Gorman in particular need to go quickly.
It’s amazing how they seem to have no obligations to existing homeless people! Or the unaccounted homeless who are stacked to the roof in every neighborhood and town up and down the country.
Do they breach human rights of homeless irish citizens ? Or that’s ok?
Quick, buy up more rural hotels!
How about that judge puts them up in their house then?
Plenty of space in the Phoenix Park to build temporary accommodation for asylum seekers. The polo pitch would be a good site for starters.
The system is complety broken and no longer reflects the current global reality.
I wonder if those sleeping rough on our streets are entitled to dignity, or those of us forced to live in our childhood bedrooms well into adulthood
No surprise.
We can’t handle the numbers. We need to start turning them away.
I want to help these people! But we just aren’t able to sort out everybody. Maybe we could provide aid to sort them out in another country?
Dublin has literally become San Francisco, locals priced out, tents everywhere, prices out of control, self important arrogant fuckheads happy enough for it to continue because it doesn’t affect their quality of life.
The entire asylum system and policy is just a last minute thrown together approach to fight whatever the current fire is.
The government as a whole are responsible and bear the responsibility for not prioritising a well thought out approach, that can be implemented within the context of Ireland today. Not some hypothetical mythical country where there isn’t a housing crisis, shortage of health care, poor transport links etc.
Lets just remember the people setting fire to IPA accommodation are absolute cunts – condemning people to live in tents to be shifted on and shifted on.
Lets also frame SF’s pretend policy to “ask nicely” before locating an IPA center wherever.
There will be no such veto given to anybody.
And before you @ me to “house our own first” – lets have you acknowledge you are advocating putting “our own” into abandoned paint factories.
Emergency housing for IPA applications is not “forever home doorstep” which is what long term housing is all about.
Stop conflating a bed in a large warehouse with a forever home – or at least admit you are conflating the two for your own political ends.
Are the Human Rights folk fighting as hard fir the Irish homeless? Coz I really see them doing fuck all for the poor kids being shunter from hostel to hostel to hotel rooms. It’s infuriating. As benefit tourists arrive from Birmingham and London and grab as much as they can and no-one is booting them out.
Question, in reality what does this mean? The Court can hardly order the government to provide 10,000 houses for instance…there’s lots of Irish people without a home either.
Another question that needs to be asked is how, in a few short years, have Ireland gone to receiving over a 600% increase in numbers and now among the highest asylum numbers in the EU (highest per capita in May).
Considering our geographical location at the far edge of Europe, we’re not easy to get to. And yet despite our difficulties with accommodation, the numbers keep growing hugely all the time.
We had a 600% increase in 2022. This year we are also expected to get more than double the number of applications compared to last year. And the cost of accommodating asylum seekers has TREBLED between 2022 and 2024. A trebling of costs in 2 short years to more than 650 million.
Recent EU figures also show that while the number of asylum applications within the EU as a whole fell by 12% between March 2023 and March 2024, that there was a 113% increase in Ireland in that time.
While numbers are stabilising in Europe, here they continue to grow and grow at a relentless pace. Ask yourself why is this.
how about the government violating the Irish peoples rights via the homeless crisis
Bananas stuff.
The numbers seeking asylum need to be drastically reduced. I suspect a lot. If not, the majority are economic migrants and not under any threat.
I’m all for helping people, but it’s become ridiculous. We can’t even house our own people.
I welcome the genuine asylum seekers. But there needs to be a serious tightening of the rules.
Who pays the legal costs of the Asylum seekers if they decide to sue?
Who pays the claims?
“This just in, the Irish have managed to brutally sue themselves”
So what’s the solution or outcome to this?
Do we stop taking in asylum seekers till we sort this out?
Where are all the “the asylum system isn’t a real problem, it’s just about divide and conquer” people gone?
This is a ruling that effectively confirms that asylum seekers have greater housing rights than Irish people and the government has a legal requirement to prioritize them over its own citizens. The government has no obligation to provide accommodation for you or me but it does have an obligation to put a roof over Adebayos head as he arrives from Nigeria.
This is also going to open up huge lawsuit costs as we are forced to pay compensation to these individuals. That will in turn result in an increased surge of new applicants looking to get in on the money train. Expect asylum applications to go to astronomical levels.
People will criticise (rightly) the government for their mishandling of the situation on this, but in the same breath will defend any NIMBY who staunchly opposes these people being housed in their community. These people need to live somewhere, but as is always the way for asylum seekers, the response from a blinkered section of almost every country in the world is “go somewhere else”.
That said, I don’t think the government have helped things and should follow up housing asylum seekers with proper investment in communities so housing people is a boon to the community rather than a strain on it.
Time to rewrite the geneva convention. No longer fit for the realities of the current world.
Economic migrants coming in 10s of thousands to an island nation surrounded by safe countries, with no housing to support them or even its own people is not what this was ever supposed to be about.
For the “what about the Irish” crew, we need these type of measures in place for the Irish homeless too to force the government to actually take action and stopping leaving it all to private profiteers
It’s ridiculous people playing the blame game when it so obviously lies at the feet of government. The migrant crisis should be enough to draw attention to government’s utter failings on so many levels but instead people falling for divide and conquer. We’ve had housing issues for decades and all it took was an increase in migration for multiple systems to implode
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The homelessness and asylum accommodation issue would be solved overnight if the government would just stump up the per night rate on Air BnB.
Thanks, but we don’t have the accommodation available.
There’s a housing crisis. Feel absolutely free to come up with suggestions to solve that first.
You all need to offer your spare bedrooms, garages and sheds to help out your flailing gov…
Here’s a radical suggestion, how about we take the funding from these organisations that take posturing court cases against the state and use it to build houses?
Good! Now the high court made it official that we have a housing crisis. Now the government can’t just continue to ignore it and wait for the private sector to sort it out…
Moronic decision
If the number of admissions could be hard-linked to the provision of new units, I think it would go a long way.
E.g. if 10,000 are admitted then accommodation for at least 10,000 must be provided. If previous goals haven’t been met, then the number of new admissions is reduced until the system catches up.
It was an appaling waste of money to try to even defend this.
It was as plain as day.
Phase 2 of this will be the damages claims.
McEntee and O’Gorman in particular need to go quickly.
It’s amazing how they seem to have no obligations to existing homeless people! Or the unaccounted homeless who are stacked to the roof in every neighborhood and town up and down the country.
Do they breach human rights of homeless irish citizens ? Or that’s ok?
Quick, buy up more rural hotels!
How about that judge puts them up in their house then?
Plenty of space in the Phoenix Park to build temporary accommodation for asylum seekers. The polo pitch would be a good site for starters.
The system is complety broken and no longer reflects the current global reality.
I wonder if those sleeping rough on our streets are entitled to dignity, or those of us forced to live in our childhood bedrooms well into adulthood
No surprise.
We can’t handle the numbers. We need to start turning them away.
I want to help these people! But we just aren’t able to sort out everybody. Maybe we could provide aid to sort them out in another country?
Dublin has literally become San Francisco, locals priced out, tents everywhere, prices out of control, self important arrogant fuckheads happy enough for it to continue because it doesn’t affect their quality of life.
The entire asylum system and policy is just a last minute thrown together approach to fight whatever the current fire is.
The government as a whole are responsible and bear the responsibility for not prioritising a well thought out approach, that can be implemented within the context of Ireland today. Not some hypothetical mythical country where there isn’t a housing crisis, shortage of health care, poor transport links etc.
Lets just remember the people setting fire to IPA accommodation are absolute cunts – condemning people to live in tents to be shifted on and shifted on.
Lets also frame SF’s pretend policy to “ask nicely” before locating an IPA center wherever.
There will be no such veto given to anybody.
And before you @ me to “house our own first” – lets have you acknowledge you are advocating putting “our own” into abandoned paint factories.
Emergency housing for IPA applications is not “forever home doorstep” which is what long term housing is all about.
Stop conflating a bed in a large warehouse with a forever home – or at least admit you are conflating the two for your own political ends.
Are the Human Rights folk fighting as hard fir the Irish homeless? Coz I really see them doing fuck all for the poor kids being shunter from hostel to hostel to hotel rooms. It’s infuriating. As benefit tourists arrive from Birmingham and London and grab as much as they can and no-one is booting them out.
Question, in reality what does this mean? The Court can hardly order the government to provide 10,000 houses for instance…there’s lots of Irish people without a home either.
Another question that needs to be asked is how, in a few short years, have Ireland gone to receiving over a 600% increase in numbers and now among the highest asylum numbers in the EU (highest per capita in May).
Considering our geographical location at the far edge of Europe, we’re not easy to get to. And yet despite our difficulties with accommodation, the numbers keep growing hugely all the time.
We had a 600% increase in 2022. This year we are also expected to get more than double the number of applications compared to last year. And the cost of accommodating asylum seekers has TREBLED between 2022 and 2024. A trebling of costs in 2 short years to more than 650 million.
Recent EU figures also show that while the number of asylum applications within the EU as a whole fell by 12% between March 2023 and March 2024, that there was a 113% increase in Ireland in that time.
While numbers are stabilising in Europe, here they continue to grow and grow at a relentless pace. Ask yourself why is this.
This is not sustainable. People need to wake up!!
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41401510.html
https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2024/0515/1449419-asylum-applications/
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/ddn-20240620-1
how about the government violating the Irish peoples rights via the homeless crisis
Bananas stuff.
The numbers seeking asylum need to be drastically reduced. I suspect a lot. If not, the majority are economic migrants and not under any threat.
I’m all for helping people, but it’s become ridiculous. We can’t even house our own people.
I welcome the genuine asylum seekers. But there needs to be a serious tightening of the rules.
Who pays the legal costs of the Asylum seekers if they decide to sue?
Who pays the claims?
“This just in, the Irish have managed to brutally sue themselves”
So what’s the solution or outcome to this?
Do we stop taking in asylum seekers till we sort this out?
Where are all the “the asylum system isn’t a real problem, it’s just about divide and conquer” people gone?
This is a ruling that effectively confirms that asylum seekers have greater housing rights than Irish people and the government has a legal requirement to prioritize them over its own citizens. The government has no obligation to provide accommodation for you or me but it does have an obligation to put a roof over Adebayos head as he arrives from Nigeria.
This is also going to open up huge lawsuit costs as we are forced to pay compensation to these individuals. That will in turn result in an increased surge of new applicants looking to get in on the money train. Expect asylum applications to go to astronomical levels.
People will criticise (rightly) the government for their mishandling of the situation on this, but in the same breath will defend any NIMBY who staunchly opposes these people being housed in their community. These people need to live somewhere, but as is always the way for asylum seekers, the response from a blinkered section of almost every country in the world is “go somewhere else”.
That said, I don’t think the government have helped things and should follow up housing asylum seekers with proper investment in communities so housing people is a boon to the community rather than a strain on it.
Time to rewrite the geneva convention. No longer fit for the realities of the current world.
Economic migrants coming in 10s of thousands to an island nation surrounded by safe countries, with no housing to support them or even its own people is not what this was ever supposed to be about.
For the “what about the Irish” crew, we need these type of measures in place for the Irish homeless too to force the government to actually take action and stopping leaving it all to private profiteers
It’s ridiculous people playing the blame game when it so obviously lies at the feet of government. The migrant crisis should be enough to draw attention to government’s utter failings on so many levels but instead people falling for divide and conquer. We’ve had housing issues for decades and all it took was an increase in migration for multiple systems to implode