I give you till tuesday.im shocked that Gruffydd lost easily a better ruler than both owains I'm my opinion and a father of wales.

by Aeronwen8675409

8 comments
  1. It’s time for the Owain’s to go and for Hywel to take his crown as the true father of medieval Cymru, I guess starting with Gwynedd just because he had less of a cultural impact

  2. It’s gonna be Owain Gwynedd this time. Didn’t sort his heirs out properly.

  3. owain gwynedd

    he simply can’t compete with glyndwr or hywel dda

  4. The Owain Gwynedd slander here is real. The man nearly orchestrated the death of an English monarch in a battle he won whilst vastly outnumbered. His son also at the same time completely stopped an English flanking force with a small garrison and a bunch of commoners.

    He then sent Henry a letter saying “too bad, so sad, not sorry lol” and declared himself princeps of Wales which sent Henry into a impotent rage which stayed with him until his death.

    At the very least, the final should be the battle of the Owain’s…

  5. Glyndwr.
    He put up a valiant effort against the English, but it was short lived & quickly stamped out.

    Gwynedd had much more of a long-term cultural impact on Wales, as did Hywel Dda. I think they should be in the final against one another. And I say this as someone who has a deep appreciation for rebelling against English authority 😂

  6. I’m sadly totally ignorant of this history. Where is the best book/media for me to learn it?

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