Well that Aontú and SF result for agreement with the protests says it all really.
Interesting that a solid majority of people believe that immigrants are good for the country, while agreeing that we have taken in too many people in the past year. You can hold two ideas in your head at once. Gives some hope that the people we’re seeing on our screens spouting purely racist hate are the vocal minority, while putting it up to government to better control and manage immigration.
The right hand column conflates refugee and other immigrants in its questions but that aside the responses are still heartening given what’s been happening and the narrative peddled by the agitatiors.
Therein lies the conflict, the vast majority who come here do so for a better life for their families. The problem is many people then see these people doing so at a cost to themselves rightly or wrongly.
With limited resources, unless someone coming here is very well educated, it’s debatable how much they contribute versus what they get in return from state supports.
An SF/FF government.
To borrow a phrase, I would rather guide my father into my mother.
Well there you have it we are basically getting the 2016 government again.
Any guessing on the election date based on this?
Love the double entendre of “the state of the parties”
Absolute staaaate of them
44% of the country are evidently happy with the status quo.. we need a new direction.
Seems increasingly likely Sinn Fein will be the opposition party after the next election.
Aside from changing leader, what else do you think they would have to change to actually convince the country to vote them into power?
Well looks like the far-right campaign against SF is working. Which is working out well for FFG. They’ll just continue on being our government unfortunately
It really surprises me that 53% of people claim that rising house prices make no difference to them.
Given that housing has been a major issue in recent elections, it’s hard to see how this isn’t a concern for most people. Homeowners typically have a significant portion of their net worth tied up in their property, and those who rent are often affected by increasing prices that can make housing unaffordable.
It seems that the only group that might be unaffected could be pensioners (even then if you have kids that still need to live at home would be classified as bad imo) an /or pretty well off people. Everyone else has some proverbial skin in the game.
Definitely interesting results for younger people to consider when weighing up emigration
The sample size was 1300 people for reference
Pick another 1300 people from a different media source and the results could be far different
Just so people are aware
44% for FFG.
53% say rising house prices make no difference to me
Do these people not have children or grandchildren that they want to see be able to afford to rent and buy their own places and achieve independence as early into their adult lives as possible? Many of these probably still have adult children living in their homes
Do they have the questions? E.g. is that immigration as a whole or illegal immigration?
No one believes these poles right? They’re clearly just a set up and even if they weren’t polls cant tell you shit. Its just a polically motivated guess at best
The support for and against the SF housing scheme being almost equal is interesting
Biggest issue is housing, but they still dedicate 1/3 of the entire page to immigration.
The media is driving this whole issue…
I want to remind everyone that this is a poll of Irish independent readers and is appropriately biased. The use of the phrase ‘Israel-Hamas War’ should be evidence enough of such.
The ‘Ireland and refugees’ section starts off with a question about whether the media is biased in reporting on refugees… then the Indo proceeds to conflate refugees/asylum seekers with general immigration.
I’d love to know the order these questions were asked on the poll (especially those last two), because it really does feel like they’ve cherry-picked the questions in that column to deliver a certain narrative. [Relevant bit from Yes Minister](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GSKwf4AIlI)
I wish they would get a sample of urban issues vs rural issues, not just Dublin.
I always found these big regional slices are a bit useless, as you get no real impression of say Cork, Limerick and Waterford cities in just “Munster”
Urban Munster and Galway would be very useful or just get the data for all 5 cities.
Ireland’s media (except the Irish Examiner) seems to only ever be able think in terms of Dublin vs Down the Country.
Someone in the middle of a housing estate in Cork isn’t just rollable in with rural West Kerry or big farming country in Tipperary or North Co. Cork
Most of the social issues in Cork and Limerick cities have far more in common with Dublin than they do with rural Munster.
But you might as well be shouting into the wind as get anyone to accept that it might be useful to know what going on in the other 4 cities.
1388 sample size isn’t much.
That party that has caused / exacerbated all the top issue are leading the polls?
Doesn’t really make much sense
I need to know where these polls come from, I’ve never once been stopped by a person with a clipboard asking if I car about immigration or the cost of butter
It concerns me “the rise of far right” is so high on this list
I’m not affiliated with any party. I do think we need change and I will vote SF but that said. They have really messed up over last year.
Their fence sitting and mixed messages have been a big red target for their many detractors and they are losing the large floating voter base they had in 2020…we are doomed to endure FFG.
I often thought they could have almost had a majority if the Leo Varadkar scandal brought down the government (it absolutely should have btw)
Would love to see the breakdown of this sample
Apparently the result of the poll is that Ireland does not in fact think.
Sad reading for SF and anyone who wants a change of government
What I can’t understand is people looking to Sweden and seeing the problems the uncontrolled mass migration caused there and think it will be any different in Ireland?
Now, can we show it to the politicians please.
Housing and Immigration are linked issues, you fix that you no longer have a “far right” problem.
The 20% who picked that as their top issue obviously don’t get that.
Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Looks likely to be another government with either one of or both FF/FG, two parties filled with unimaginative, uninspiring scumbags.
I think Ireland deserves better.
Let’s be honest the swapping of Varadkar and Simon Harris will not see much benefit for the country as a whole it is more akin to applying a fresh coat of paint and ignoring the foundational problems however it has certainly benefited FG massively.
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Well that Aontú and SF result for agreement with the protests says it all really.
Interesting that a solid majority of people believe that immigrants are good for the country, while agreeing that we have taken in too many people in the past year. You can hold two ideas in your head at once. Gives some hope that the people we’re seeing on our screens spouting purely racist hate are the vocal minority, while putting it up to government to better control and manage immigration.
The right hand column conflates refugee and other immigrants in its questions but that aside the responses are still heartening given what’s been happening and the narrative peddled by the agitatiors.
Therein lies the conflict, the vast majority who come here do so for a better life for their families. The problem is many people then see these people doing so at a cost to themselves rightly or wrongly.
With limited resources, unless someone coming here is very well educated, it’s debatable how much they contribute versus what they get in return from state supports.
An SF/FF government.
To borrow a phrase, I would rather guide my father into my mother.
Well there you have it we are basically getting the 2016 government again.
Any guessing on the election date based on this?
Love the double entendre of “the state of the parties”
Absolute staaaate of them
44% of the country are evidently happy with the status quo.. we need a new direction.
Seems increasingly likely Sinn Fein will be the opposition party after the next election.
Aside from changing leader, what else do you think they would have to change to actually convince the country to vote them into power?
Well looks like the far-right campaign against SF is working. Which is working out well for FFG. They’ll just continue on being our government unfortunately
It really surprises me that 53% of people claim that rising house prices make no difference to them.
Given that housing has been a major issue in recent elections, it’s hard to see how this isn’t a concern for most people. Homeowners typically have a significant portion of their net worth tied up in their property, and those who rent are often affected by increasing prices that can make housing unaffordable.
It seems that the only group that might be unaffected could be pensioners (even then if you have kids that still need to live at home would be classified as bad imo) an /or pretty well off people. Everyone else has some proverbial skin in the game.
Definitely interesting results for younger people to consider when weighing up emigration
The sample size was 1300 people for reference
Pick another 1300 people from a different media source and the results could be far different
Just so people are aware
44% for FFG.
53% say rising house prices make no difference to me
Do these people not have children or grandchildren that they want to see be able to afford to rent and buy their own places and achieve independence as early into their adult lives as possible? Many of these probably still have adult children living in their homes
Do they have the questions? E.g. is that immigration as a whole or illegal immigration?
No one believes these poles right? They’re clearly just a set up and even if they weren’t polls cant tell you shit. Its just a polically motivated guess at best
The support for and against the SF housing scheme being almost equal is interesting
Biggest issue is housing, but they still dedicate 1/3 of the entire page to immigration.
The media is driving this whole issue…
I want to remind everyone that this is a poll of Irish independent readers and is appropriately biased. The use of the phrase ‘Israel-Hamas War’ should be evidence enough of such.
The ‘Ireland and refugees’ section starts off with a question about whether the media is biased in reporting on refugees… then the Indo proceeds to conflate refugees/asylum seekers with general immigration.
I’d love to know the order these questions were asked on the poll (especially those last two), because it really does feel like they’ve cherry-picked the questions in that column to deliver a certain narrative. [Relevant bit from Yes Minister](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GSKwf4AIlI)
I wish they would get a sample of urban issues vs rural issues, not just Dublin.
I always found these big regional slices are a bit useless, as you get no real impression of say Cork, Limerick and Waterford cities in just “Munster”
Urban Munster and Galway would be very useful or just get the data for all 5 cities.
Ireland’s media (except the Irish Examiner) seems to only ever be able think in terms of Dublin vs Down the Country.
Someone in the middle of a housing estate in Cork isn’t just rollable in with rural West Kerry or big farming country in Tipperary or North Co. Cork
Most of the social issues in Cork and Limerick cities have far more in common with Dublin than they do with rural Munster.
But you might as well be shouting into the wind as get anyone to accept that it might be useful to know what going on in the other 4 cities.
1388 sample size isn’t much.
That party that has caused / exacerbated all the top issue are leading the polls?
Doesn’t really make much sense
I need to know where these polls come from, I’ve never once been stopped by a person with a clipboard asking if I car about immigration or the cost of butter
It concerns me “the rise of far right” is so high on this list
I’m not affiliated with any party. I do think we need change and I will vote SF but that said. They have really messed up over last year.
Their fence sitting and mixed messages have been a big red target for their many detractors and they are losing the large floating voter base they had in 2020…we are doomed to endure FFG.
I often thought they could have almost had a majority if the Leo Varadkar scandal brought down the government (it absolutely should have btw)
Would love to see the breakdown of this sample
Apparently the result of the poll is that Ireland does not in fact think.
Sad reading for SF and anyone who wants a change of government
What I can’t understand is people looking to Sweden and seeing the problems the uncontrolled mass migration caused there and think it will be any different in Ireland?
Now, can we show it to the politicians please.
Housing and Immigration are linked issues, you fix that you no longer have a “far right” problem.
The 20% who picked that as their top issue obviously don’t get that.
Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Looks likely to be another government with either one of or both FF/FG, two parties filled with unimaginative, uninspiring scumbags.
I think Ireland deserves better.
Let’s be honest the swapping of Varadkar and Simon Harris will not see much benefit for the country as a whole it is more akin to applying a fresh coat of paint and ignoring the foundational problems however it has certainly benefited FG massively.