You’re missing the third left picture, 4 one off houses.
Why doesn’t Ireland build up? Is this just a way to keep estate prices super high and to keep this country expensive?
This is great for preschoolers but can I get the grown up version?
Option B, so we could use the 96% left for farming.
G’way with your nature nonsense.
I feel like those are maybe not the only two options.
Yeah fuck apartments
I find it strange, when you look at Dublin how many semi-d and detached houses with front and back garden there are. If you look at most bigger European cities you have all high density high rise. It would solve so many problems. More housing, cheaper housing, people can move to smaller apartments which frees up space in the housing market.
literally the only way to fix a housing crisis is to add more supply
demand higher than supply? prices go up
supply higher than demand? prices go down
that’s it. that’s the math
Yes dublin desperately needs a few commie blocks that aren’t a social housing project
Moved into an apartment recently, jaysus so many numpties putting black waste in the green bins and vice-versa, and the glass bin is full of organic waste
I think one of the big issues with this is the price of apartments. At the moment, according to government and private sector reports, it is actually more expensive to build the 100 apartments instead of the 100 houses. This means people have to pay more for something smaller and with less space.
Indeed, it is so expensive to build apartments at the moment that they are only being built to rent, either privately or via non profits / the State as developers do not believe people will buy them at the price they cost to build.
It seems strange that it is more expensive to build smaller, denser accommodation but apparently it does. I think people would be more than happy to buy apartments if they were cheaper than new houses but they aren’t.
The issue is that the apartments they build aren’t for permanent living, to small, little to no storage, difficult to own an animal, raise a child make modifications to, everything from plumbing and wiring is hidden and not easily accessible which makes leaks a nightmare and they happen all the time in apartments. They are badly ventilated and suffer from one directional viewing so they have less light, thin wall. You can’t even dry your clothes on the balcony in most places, and you don’t have a sufficient usable outdoor space, or more then one parking space when you could have 3 people living there.
They are terribly designed in most places Ireland especially
I bet we could build pyramids for residential purposes. The rich would live near the apex, with great views and external balconies. The poor would live on the lower levels, with sunlight that’s more indirect, and more tightly packed. And it would stand for millenia.
The victorian squares of cottages with a common centre area are probably denser than the average block of flats you could build on the same footprint in Ireland. Because of light requirements, emergency exits, lifts, service areas etc, Irish apartments don’t work out as dense as you’d think.
Look at Gray square, Brabazon square and the nearby streets on maps. Dozens of homes in a space that’d fit roughly 1 apartment block. How tall would it have to be to replace them? Would the residents have a better standard of living than their street level terrace/cottage?
Irish people have had a 3 bed house with a front and back garden is good and apartments are moldy tiny death traps hammered into their brain.
Nimbys are destroying Europe.
Yeh, their is that bs in Dublin where they refuse anything over I believe 6 stories because they want to have a “low lying skyline” which is like, why? What’s the beauty in Dublin that you’d want to have a low lying skyline? Paris would make sense for stuff like the Eiffel Tower, but who tf wants to see the spike or whatever tf it’s called. I know it’s just an excuse because they shoot down literally everything, it just makes me angry
Because the apartments built here are tiny and absolutely shite. Build decent sized 3/4 bed (similar square
Footage as houses) apartments with access to green space and people will be much happier to live and raise families in them
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You’re missing the third left picture, 4 one off houses.
Why doesn’t Ireland build up? Is this just a way to keep estate prices super high and to keep this country expensive?
This is great for preschoolers but can I get the grown up version?
Option B, so we could use the 96% left for farming.
G’way with your nature nonsense.
I feel like those are maybe not the only two options.
Yeah fuck apartments
I find it strange, when you look at Dublin how many semi-d and detached houses with front and back garden there are. If you look at most bigger European cities you have all high density high rise. It would solve so many problems. More housing, cheaper housing, people can move to smaller apartments which frees up space in the housing market.
literally the only way to fix a housing crisis is to add more supply
demand higher than supply? prices go up
supply higher than demand? prices go down
that’s it. that’s the math
Yes dublin desperately needs a few commie blocks that aren’t a social housing project
Moved into an apartment recently, jaysus so many numpties putting black waste in the green bins and vice-versa, and the glass bin is full of organic waste
I think one of the big issues with this is the price of apartments. At the moment, according to government and private sector reports, it is actually more expensive to build the 100 apartments instead of the 100 houses. This means people have to pay more for something smaller and with less space.
Indeed, it is so expensive to build apartments at the moment that they are only being built to rent, either privately or via non profits / the State as developers do not believe people will buy them at the price they cost to build.
It seems strange that it is more expensive to build smaller, denser accommodation but apparently it does. I think people would be more than happy to buy apartments if they were cheaper than new houses but they aren’t.
The issue is that the apartments they build aren’t for permanent living, to small, little to no storage, difficult to own an animal, raise a child make modifications to, everything from plumbing and wiring is hidden and not easily accessible which makes leaks a nightmare and they happen all the time in apartments. They are badly ventilated and suffer from one directional viewing so they have less light, thin wall. You can’t even dry your clothes on the balcony in most places, and you don’t have a sufficient usable outdoor space, or more then one parking space when you could have 3 people living there.
They are terribly designed in most places Ireland especially
I bet we could build pyramids for residential purposes. The rich would live near the apex, with great views and external balconies. The poor would live on the lower levels, with sunlight that’s more indirect, and more tightly packed. And it would stand for millenia.
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That reminds me of this diagram.
The victorian squares of cottages with a common centre area are probably denser than the average block of flats you could build on the same footprint in Ireland. Because of light requirements, emergency exits, lifts, service areas etc, Irish apartments don’t work out as dense as you’d think.
Look at Gray square, Brabazon square and the nearby streets on maps. Dozens of homes in a space that’d fit roughly 1 apartment block. How tall would it have to be to replace them? Would the residents have a better standard of living than their street level terrace/cottage?
Irish people have had a 3 bed house with a front and back garden is good and apartments are moldy tiny death traps hammered into their brain.
Nimbys are destroying Europe.
Yeh, their is that bs in Dublin where they refuse anything over I believe 6 stories because they want to have a “low lying skyline” which is like, why? What’s the beauty in Dublin that you’d want to have a low lying skyline? Paris would make sense for stuff like the Eiffel Tower, but who tf wants to see the spike or whatever tf it’s called. I know it’s just an excuse because they shoot down literally everything, it just makes me angry
Because the apartments built here are tiny and absolutely shite. Build decent sized 3/4 bed (similar square
Footage as houses) apartments with access to green space and people will be much happier to live and raise families in them