This is a nice way of deflecting from the issue at hand.
Instead of having a proper consideration of the immigration policies, we can all sit around and pretend the problem is one created by social media.
It’s not social media that makes people recognise (with their eyes) that areas of our country have demographically transformed to be far different than what they were even 5 years ago.
It’s not Russia spreading this, it’s even visible in our own census data.
So all of them, in some way or the other.
People all have different views, and may ‘hate’ different things. This wasn’t well thought through.
Literally old man yells at cloud based service.
Notice that the biggest gains from the fascist protests, are for authoritarians – i.e. handing the fascists a win.
Nah, let’s have a “slur tax”.
Build a bot that counts the daily occurrences of abuse, then hits them with a fine for each one. That’ll get their attention. 🙂
All that’s needed is proper identity verification. Instantly get rid of bots, force the nazis into the light, burst the Russian disinformation machine.
No ID, no socials. Simple.
It doesn’t spread hate, it shows the truth
So….all of them?
You can leave the communist ideology, but the communist ideology never leaves you!
Most of these lads have obv been infected by the echo chambers online but really most of them are out for a laugh. Wreck the place, rob a pair of nikes lolz!!!, oh look im drinking the mcflurry from the tap at maccie dees haha! beers later . Absolute scumbags with nothin better to do and nothing useful to contribute. Lock the c@nts up
Absolute moron.
Free speech
Who defines hate?
Shut them all down. Id love to turn off the Internet for a month or two. Just for the craic.
We don’t need to shut down social media platforms. Social media can, at its best, be a really positive way to create connections and bridge divides. It can really help to encourage deliberation and debate (Reddit is a good example).
But our current social media networks are designed to profit off of hate, and that needs to change urgently. Since 2016, Meta/Twitter/etc realised that they could increase engagement and therefore advertising profit by forcing people to see a ‘for you’ or ‘recommended’ feed showing posts which made them angry (posts with extreme content which is anti-democracy, racist, misogynist, homophobic, pro-violence).
From that moment on, we lost our individual freedom to choose what we wanted to see on social media, which we previously had by curating who we follow and seeing their posts chronologically.
Since 2016, regardless of who we follow and what we like, the algorithm will show us ‘recommended posts’ which are ones which are more likely to be divisive and extreme. This consistently increases engagement and profit, even if it’s at the expense of social cohesion, trust in institutions, and the resilience of democracy. We all have friends who, despite following and liking harmless funny content on TikTok or Facebook, end up falling down an algorithmic rabbit hole which constantly shows them extreme political content.
We must urge our government to ban Recommender Systems on social media, and force social media companies to change the design of their networks to show posts from followers in chronological order, so that we can once again regain control over what we see on social media.
This is about protecting our democracy and regaining individual control over what we see online. The obscene profis of Twitter and Meta shouldn’t take precedent over our democracy and people’s safety.
Just need to find ways to delete the bots, they defo can, but it would harm their numbers.
This social media companies operate here and employ thousands though.
So, all of them?
Orwellian times are upon us,
I get the intent of what hes saying as social media has absolutely fucked the world up but I don’t see how you could put any guidelines around this in any enforceable way without going the full censorship route for everyone.
Better start with the telephones and the postal service.
Finlays suggestion is a classic totalitarian one, of someone who believes government should have complete control of narrative and discussion. In the fascist and communist states, its media and the ability to converse that is first seized, because its what holds power to account. Maduro in Venezuela announced yesterday that he wants Whatsapp banned, for instance, because those in power know that discussion, free thought and a way to communicate is their biggest danger. Stalin used to comment on this also in saying that the danger wasn’t the people who went along with things, but the people who had the ability to question.
If some have issue with the way people are using the platforms and the *problematic* opinions they’re expressing, then society should be addressing those issues fundamentally. Closing down the means of discussion in order to install a temporary veneer of stability is the single most stupid (potentially autocratic and evil, depending on the intent) suggestion.
Societies that function well don’t have the need for mass riots, social media is just the means for people to express that society isn’t functioning well for them. Why for instance does Denmark not have recent issues with riots quite like England, Ireland, etc? Because they addressed the immigration issue and the far-right agenda had no reason to exist.
Finally, the bot problem is an interesting one, and I’ve personally been debating the idea of whether you should be ID’d when using social media; but the counter issue with that is that cancel-culture and being DOXXed for expressing your thoughts is very very real and equally dangerous to democracy. Even moreso in an environment where government is powerful.
Who decides what constitutes hate? Getting arrested for memes while people can batter or fuck kids and get suspended sentences doesn’t sit right with me I’m afraid. This planet is fucked and it’s only going to get worse.
I think we need to find a middle ground between shutting everything down and the libertarian digital fantasy we were old sold by tech billionaires a decade ago. Either way social media currently constitutes a poison in our society so something has to change, but I want those changes to be lead by people who understand social media but aren’t owned by it.
Ban the internet!!! Sounds pretty fascistic and unhinged tbh
And of course they are using fascist morons to institute more control over our freedom. This isn’t how democracy works. You can’t just go around banning things left and right. It isn’t an efficient way to combat extremism at all. Surely he’s smart enough to know that
Finlay is a dangerous character
So when rte be switched off??
What a silly silly man.
I would support outlawing all social media. Lets go back to 5,000 word blogs.
u/ltsmejimmyC whines that people can’t say anything without someone taking offense, takes offense at a question and blocks me. Hilarious
Wow, that guy sounds very, ahh what’s the word lefties like him use to describe right wingers they don’t like because they don’t have an argument, starts with f I think, can’t quite put my finger on it. Anyway, all fascists (anyone who raises a reasonable concern about immigration, the cost of living, and the housing crisis) need to be censored and deplatformed immediately.
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This is a nice way of deflecting from the issue at hand.
Instead of having a proper consideration of the immigration policies, we can all sit around and pretend the problem is one created by social media.
It’s not social media that makes people recognise (with their eyes) that areas of our country have demographically transformed to be far different than what they were even 5 years ago.
It’s not Russia spreading this, it’s even visible in our own census data.
So all of them, in some way or the other.
People all have different views, and may ‘hate’ different things. This wasn’t well thought through.
Literally old man yells at cloud based service.
Notice that the biggest gains from the fascist protests, are for authoritarians – i.e. handing the fascists a win.
Nah, let’s have a “slur tax”.
Build a bot that counts the daily occurrences of abuse, then hits them with a fine for each one. That’ll get their attention. 🙂
All that’s needed is proper identity verification. Instantly get rid of bots, force the nazis into the light, burst the Russian disinformation machine.
No ID, no socials. Simple.
It doesn’t spread hate, it shows the truth
So….all of them?
You can leave the communist ideology, but the communist ideology never leaves you!
Most of these lads have obv been infected by the echo chambers online but really most of them are out for a laugh. Wreck the place, rob a pair of nikes lolz!!!, oh look im drinking the mcflurry from the tap at maccie dees haha! beers later . Absolute scumbags with nothin better to do and nothing useful to contribute. Lock the c@nts up
Absolute moron.
Free speech
Who defines hate?
Shut them all down. Id love to turn off the Internet for a month or two. Just for the craic.
We don’t need to shut down social media platforms. Social media can, at its best, be a really positive way to create connections and bridge divides. It can really help to encourage deliberation and debate (Reddit is a good example).
But our current social media networks are designed to profit off of hate, and that needs to change urgently. Since 2016, Meta/Twitter/etc realised that they could increase engagement and therefore advertising profit by forcing people to see a ‘for you’ or ‘recommended’ feed showing posts which made them angry (posts with extreme content which is anti-democracy, racist, misogynist, homophobic, pro-violence).
From that moment on, we lost our individual freedom to choose what we wanted to see on social media, which we previously had by curating who we follow and seeing their posts chronologically.
Since 2016, regardless of who we follow and what we like, the algorithm will show us ‘recommended posts’ which are ones which are more likely to be divisive and extreme. This consistently increases engagement and profit, even if it’s at the expense of social cohesion, trust in institutions, and the resilience of democracy. We all have friends who, despite following and liking harmless funny content on TikTok or Facebook, end up falling down an algorithmic rabbit hole which constantly shows them extreme political content.
We must urge our government to ban Recommender Systems on social media, and force social media companies to change the design of their networks to show posts from followers in chronological order, so that we can once again regain control over what we see on social media.
This is about protecting our democracy and regaining individual control over what we see online. The obscene profis of Twitter and Meta shouldn’t take precedent over our democracy and people’s safety.
Just need to find ways to delete the bots, they defo can, but it would harm their numbers.
This social media companies operate here and employ thousands though.
So, all of them?
Orwellian times are upon us,
I get the intent of what hes saying as social media has absolutely fucked the world up but I don’t see how you could put any guidelines around this in any enforceable way without going the full censorship route for everyone.
Better start with the telephones and the postal service.
Finlays suggestion is a classic totalitarian one, of someone who believes government should have complete control of narrative and discussion. In the fascist and communist states, its media and the ability to converse that is first seized, because its what holds power to account. Maduro in Venezuela announced yesterday that he wants Whatsapp banned, for instance, because those in power know that discussion, free thought and a way to communicate is their biggest danger. Stalin used to comment on this also in saying that the danger wasn’t the people who went along with things, but the people who had the ability to question.
If some have issue with the way people are using the platforms and the *problematic* opinions they’re expressing, then society should be addressing those issues fundamentally. Closing down the means of discussion in order to install a temporary veneer of stability is the single most stupid (potentially autocratic and evil, depending on the intent) suggestion.
Societies that function well don’t have the need for mass riots, social media is just the means for people to express that society isn’t functioning well for them. Why for instance does Denmark not have recent issues with riots quite like England, Ireland, etc? Because they addressed the immigration issue and the far-right agenda had no reason to exist.
Finally, the bot problem is an interesting one, and I’ve personally been debating the idea of whether you should be ID’d when using social media; but the counter issue with that is that cancel-culture and being DOXXed for expressing your thoughts is very very real and equally dangerous to democracy. Even moreso in an environment where government is powerful.
Who decides what constitutes hate? Getting arrested for memes while people can batter or fuck kids and get suspended sentences doesn’t sit right with me I’m afraid. This planet is fucked and it’s only going to get worse.
I think we need to find a middle ground between shutting everything down and the libertarian digital fantasy we were old sold by tech billionaires a decade ago. Either way social media currently constitutes a poison in our society so something has to change, but I want those changes to be lead by people who understand social media but aren’t owned by it.
Ban the internet!!! Sounds pretty fascistic and unhinged tbh
And of course they are using fascist morons to institute more control over our freedom. This isn’t how democracy works. You can’t just go around banning things left and right. It isn’t an efficient way to combat extremism at all. Surely he’s smart enough to know that
Finlay is a dangerous character
So when rte be switched off??
What a silly silly man.
I would support outlawing all social media. Lets go back to 5,000 word blogs.
u/ltsmejimmyC whines that people can’t say anything without someone taking offense, takes offense at a question and blocks me. Hilarious
Wow, that guy sounds very, ahh what’s the word lefties like him use to describe right wingers they don’t like because they don’t have an argument, starts with f I think, can’t quite put my finger on it. Anyway, all fascists (anyone who raises a reasonable concern about immigration, the cost of living, and the housing crisis) need to be censored and deplatformed immediately.