Taoiseach Simon Harris says the era of self regulation by social media companies is over

by noisylettuce

36 comments
  1. They need to know how the algorithms work and force them to change it. This is what’s promoting all the extremist stuff. They’d be a tiny minority if they weren’t being intentionally promoted.

    Fining a massive company a bit of money now and again or expecting them to be removing tweets from millions of people all day isn’t going to achieve anything.

  2. This would appear to be in response to some news medias properly reporting that the right wing agitators are at least linked to British unionist and loyalist paramilitaries. Specifically Mossad agent Tommy Robinson.

    The government and RTÉ are still taking these larpers at face value and are proposing to change the law based on these known falsehoods.

  3. Fuck yeah, can’t wait to post some vile stuff on twitter and bankrupt that piece of shit

  4. There should be a mandatory I.D registration for any social media account. No more hiding behind fake accounts and VPNs

  5. We just got rid of blasphemy laws and now we are bringing them back with a vengeance. And people actually pleased with this. Mad stuff.

    Inciting violence is already illegal, and “misinformation and disinformation” is in the eye of the beholder.

  6. This is absolutely ridiculous. This is just another example of why this guy is [*Removed by Government. Vote Fine Gael*]

  7. There’s going to be an almighty shitstorm of “respect our freedom of speech!” (…our right to yell insults and threats at immigrants, and curiously almost never white immigrants) comments.

    Twitter is an absolute shitshow… unlike Reddit – where you can choose which topics you’re interested in and/or which you want to avoid – there you’re at the mercy of an algorithm which can feed you whatever they want to push. Feel-good echo-chamber messages, or “look what the other side is doing!” ragebait.

    I’ve never seen so such concerted hatred and racism on other major platforms.

  8. They were perfectly happy with it when they had ‘friends’ in positions of power in twitter. When Musk cleared it out, they developed a problem with it.

    They do not want anyone to challenge the narrative.

    Paying RTÉ off was to keep them on script. They can’t keep X on script and that is the issue now!

    ![gif](giphy|QYj7oDH1z9jP0CaCy5)

  9. I’ve thought this for years, make the execs liable and the Internet will be cleared up overnight. 

  10. Now I don’t know who to believe!

    ![gif](giphy|4Z9fSEFAuxpnlBVWQx|downsized)

  11. Finally! With all these announcements, there must be an election on the horizon. 😆

  12. Interesting reaction on here. Very interesting.

    Bots or something more sinister?

  13. A huge problem is Twitter is now letting people make actual threats and calls to violence without shutting down accounts or working with authorities to locate the agitator.

    People arguing this are dense and are likely the fucking idiots that get so easily influenced like Israeli shills like Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon.

  14. It’s not social Media, it’s that heavy metal music that’s driving people crazy

  15. Yeah, the 5 millions or so of us will convince big tech! Let’s do this!

  16. Maybe apply that rule to a lot of the public services whilst we’re at it. HSE, RTE, IFA,….pick your acronym.

  17. I remember seeing a suggestion that instead of paying fines, the company has to forfeit the equivalent value in the most powerful voting shares.

    Importantly, these shares wouldn’t be exercised by the government, just held in trust. I wonder if that would be an effective remedy.

  18. Musk was promoting the misinformation himself. He really gave them everything they need to crack down. He has brought this on himself quite frankly, and its well deserved.

  19. We really should just abandon the facade of being a democratic nation and let the corpos fight it out for supreme power.

  20. Canada said to Facebook “You need to pay to publish quality Canadian journalism on your site”.

    Result: No Canadian news articles appear on Facebook in Canada.

  21. Facebook is implicated in facilitating multiple ethnic cleansings. They don’t differentiate between the types of connection at all, it’s all engagement. So you linking with your old school friends and you linking with your stalker ex who you moved country to escape are the same thing.

    At one stage, they weighed angry responses five times more important than ordinary likes, which is why a large portion of the FB userbase is mentally ill anger addicts.

    https://youtu.be/NlSDeNkcgcM

    These platforms simply cannot be relied to police themselves, it’s been a disaster for the human race.

  22. It’s won’t work, there is little that can be done.

    I suspect that similar to how the government effectively paid off RTE with increased state funding to buy favourable media coverage. The government will now try to do something similar with social media providers, perhaps less cumbersome laws in exchange for soft censorship of posts critical of the government or something.

    In any event it’s not going to work. It’s not like 10 years ago where one can reasonably get away with throttling a topic, a significant number of the public are wise to such antics. Instead of just time to worry about Facebook criticism or criticism on you tube now governments have to worry about posts and tick-tock, minds, odyssey, Snapchat, BitChute et cetera et cetera. And trying to censor some topics has a habit of going full Streisand effect and making them more popular than ever.

  23. No amount of media literacy can solve the fact that there will always be a subset of the population that have no ability to resist radicalization. Social media is just a bullhorn for that – the last decade has shown just how well we can handle our social media.

    Sorry lads!

  24. Any notion of regulating these companies is pointless unless you’re willing to hire (and therefore pay) people with the relevant technical knowledge.

    They need to be able to understand how their algorithms are working and to monitor any required changes. More importantly, they need to have the skills and insight to spot any attempts to get around any regulations.

    You need to pay big. You also need to get rid of the system whereby every new joiner starts at the bottom of the pay band. You’ll never get anyone with any experience like that.

  25. Will we still have to suffer LinkedIn though. That’s the big question 😀

  26. The one risk with this as always is with impartiality. I struggle to see an impartial approach coming out of any regulation. If anyone is against something similar to the riots we saw in Dublin last November but doesn’t also condemn the BLM kind of movements we saw in America then I’m not sure what to tell you. Because both sides involved people inciting riots, looting, vandalising, and attacking innocent people. Any solution would need to be entirely impartial.

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