McGregor on the day of the Dublin riots made early interventions stoking up the race riot. He explicitly called for asylum seeker accommodation to be burnt down amongst other things. On that day, refugee accommodation in Dublin did get set alight.
This follows a pattern of extremely light-touch policing on fascist agitators. The government seems intent to just allow this to continue, even allowing for a roaming band of them to travel across the country astroturfing this panic & committing acts of violence.
If the British government is able to quickly clamp down on those committing and inciting the racist violence, why can’t the Irish government?
People on here have moaned relentlessly about the proposed new laws on incitement to hatred and then moan relentlessly about not having them.
Edit: It’s also worth noting the tweet complained of is hopelessly vague and easily defended on the basis that it’s not an open call for anything really.
We’ve had political policing in Ireland now for a few years.
They actively helped far right scum into libraries to protest and onto buses to check IDs and they’ll try to stop PBP reps handing out leaflets and try to confiscate them at a housing protest.
If we arrested everybody who comits a crime, we would get nothing done.
My guess would be nobody took responsibility for the investigation. The Gardaí are pretty territorial with district and divisional boundaries. The internet is both in everyone’s and nobody’s jurisdiction. So unless a member of the public actually makes a report to a Garda, they’ll all just assume someone else will handle it.
Because we don’t live in an authoritarian police state.
You’d hope the populace in general is educated enough to know the man’s an ape. That’s a better defense than any police action for this kind of thing.
Have you reported it to the Guards? They might tell you.
Honestly, I reckon loads of us wondered out-loud about why he wasn’t being arrested without actually reporting him.
I assume the laws might not be there… yet.
He was only arson around
I’m a big free speech guy but not when it comes to inciting violence and hatred. He definitely should be arrested for this.
I’m a strong believer in freedom of speech, but that’s clearly incitement to hatred/violence. Especially because there are people in Ireland (that support the far right) who would burn down hotels because other people told them to.
His legal defence may have something to do with a kettle.
I don’t think you know what the word evaporate means.
My guess is its so vague that it would be not much more than a waste of Garda time.
McGregor is a useless fucking idiot. 100% waste of oxygen.
Might not be targeted enough to prosecute. Or actually count as encouragement.
Conor has family in England and his grandfather was English. Always these lads, recent to the parish, that seems to like to stir this trouble up…
Evaporate? Wouldn’t stand up in court.
I’ll tell you why, he didnt name a place, he didnt mention a time and he didnt make a clear call to action i.e. he didnt even tell anyone to ‘burn’ anything. He also doesnt even mention a specific group of people who are supposedly taking over Irish properties. Its vague on all fronts.
Whatever you think about McGregor (which isnt much if you’re asking me), this would never stand up to any scrutiny anywhere.
Not enough evidence that the call was serious.
You can be guaranteed that if this bozo gets his planning permissions he will fill those apartments with immigrants. If he wasn’t so called famous for beating the shyte out of people he would be on those barricades beating the shyte out of either the immigrants or the cops.
We’ve taken a wrong turn as a country if we’re seriously asking for people to be arrested for vague social media posts like this.
McGregor said those things the night before the Parnell Square attack on the children. There were people calling him for incitement for the riots after it but he said those things before the day before the events even happened. Therefore it would have been an easy defence for the legal team, “how was he meant to know somebody would stab children the next day” etc etc
We’re not in the UK buddy. Arresting people for tweets should be confined within the psychotic police hellhole that is the UK.
Unfortunately it’s too vague but if it was a post like this then he definitely would have been! BTW this tweet was from a Tory councillor’s wife last week during the riots, she has since been charged with racial hatred & her account was taken down by Anonymous UK NOT by Twitter!!
Doesn’t China arrest people for things they say online?
Because no one takes clowns seriously.
Because your understanding of incitement is wrong and not in line with the law.
The same way everyone is a ‘terrorist’ nowadays.
I heard they’re going to house refugees in
The Black Forge Inn, Drimnagh
The Marble Arch, Drimnagh
SBG, Inchicore
The Waterside, Howth
The Gardaí are too afraid to arrest him after seeing what he did to that pub in Road House.
I can’t believe that people can look at the dystopian hellscape that the UK has become with their surveillance and censorship and think “yeah, we need that here too”.
First there needs to be an injured party, then a file has to be sent to the DPP to see A if it’s winnable and B if it’s in the public interest. Anyway charge him under what law? From a legal standpoint his tweet is pretty vague.. he doesn’t name anything specific. Solicitor would dance this out of court.
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The wife of a Tory councillor over in England [has been arrested](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1jll3eg33wo) after calling for hotels housing asylum seekers to be set alight.
McGregor on the day of the Dublin riots made early interventions stoking up the race riot. He explicitly called for asylum seeker accommodation to be burnt down amongst other things. On that day, refugee accommodation in Dublin did get set alight.
This follows a pattern of extremely light-touch policing on fascist agitators. The government seems intent to just allow this to continue, even allowing for a roaming band of them to travel across the country astroturfing this panic & committing acts of violence.
If the British government is able to quickly clamp down on those committing and inciting the racist violence, why can’t the Irish government?
People on here have moaned relentlessly about the proposed new laws on incitement to hatred and then moan relentlessly about not having them.
Edit: It’s also worth noting the tweet complained of is hopelessly vague and easily defended on the basis that it’s not an open call for anything really.
We’ve had political policing in Ireland now for a few years.
They actively helped far right scum into libraries to protest and onto buses to check IDs and they’ll try to stop PBP reps handing out leaflets and try to confiscate them at a housing protest.
If we arrested everybody who comits a crime, we would get nothing done.
My guess would be nobody took responsibility for the investigation. The Gardaí are pretty territorial with district and divisional boundaries. The internet is both in everyone’s and nobody’s jurisdiction. So unless a member of the public actually makes a report to a Garda, they’ll all just assume someone else will handle it.
Because we don’t live in an authoritarian police state.
You’d hope the populace in general is educated enough to know the man’s an ape. That’s a better defense than any police action for this kind of thing.
Have you reported it to the Guards? They might tell you.
Honestly, I reckon loads of us wondered out-loud about why he wasn’t being arrested without actually reporting him.
I assume the laws might not be there… yet.
He was only arson around
I’m a big free speech guy but not when it comes to inciting violence and hatred. He definitely should be arrested for this.
I’m a strong believer in freedom of speech, but that’s clearly incitement to hatred/violence. Especially because there are people in Ireland (that support the far right) who would burn down hotels because other people told them to.
His legal defence may have something to do with a kettle.
I don’t think you know what the word evaporate means.
My guess is its so vague that it would be not much more than a waste of Garda time.
McGregor is a useless fucking idiot. 100% waste of oxygen.
Might not be targeted enough to prosecute. Or actually count as encouragement.
Conor has family in England and his grandfather was English. Always these lads, recent to the parish, that seems to like to stir this trouble up…
Evaporate? Wouldn’t stand up in court.
I’ll tell you why, he didnt name a place, he didnt mention a time and he didnt make a clear call to action i.e. he didnt even tell anyone to ‘burn’ anything. He also doesnt even mention a specific group of people who are supposedly taking over Irish properties. Its vague on all fronts.
Whatever you think about McGregor (which isnt much if you’re asking me), this would never stand up to any scrutiny anywhere.
Not enough evidence that the call was serious.
You can be guaranteed that if this bozo gets his planning permissions he will fill those apartments with immigrants. If he wasn’t so called famous for beating the shyte out of people he would be on those barricades beating the shyte out of either the immigrants or the cops.
We’ve taken a wrong turn as a country if we’re seriously asking for people to be arrested for vague social media posts like this.
McGregor said those things the night before the Parnell Square attack on the children. There were people calling him for incitement for the riots after it but he said those things before the day before the events even happened. Therefore it would have been an easy defence for the legal team, “how was he meant to know somebody would stab children the next day” etc etc
We’re not in the UK buddy. Arresting people for tweets should be confined within the psychotic police hellhole that is the UK.
Unfortunately it’s too vague but if it was a post like this then he definitely would have been! BTW this tweet was from a Tory councillor’s wife last week during the riots, she has since been charged with racial hatred & her account was taken down by Anonymous UK NOT by Twitter!!
https://preview.redd.it/bvdwqzpaeahd1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6620c9cf51f51380fc66c565b381b2668e0ba04c
Doesn’t China arrest people for things they say online?
Because no one takes clowns seriously.
Because your understanding of incitement is wrong and not in line with the law.
The same way everyone is a ‘terrorist’ nowadays.
I heard they’re going to house refugees in
The Black Forge Inn, Drimnagh
The Marble Arch, Drimnagh
SBG, Inchicore
The Waterside, Howth
The Gardaí are too afraid to arrest him after seeing what he did to that pub in Road House.
I can’t believe that people can look at the dystopian hellscape that the UK has become with their surveillance and censorship and think “yeah, we need that here too”.
First there needs to be an injured party, then a file has to be sent to the DPP to see A if it’s winnable and B if it’s in the public interest. Anyway charge him under what law? From a legal standpoint his tweet is pretty vague.. he doesn’t name anything specific. Solicitor would dance this out of court.