Yea but the additional 1 million people are all very well behaved
Government – doesn’t increase any services.
Population – increases
Government – surprised?
The most politically acceptable way to increase the prison capacity would be to add extensions onto the current prisons.
Because no td in going to support building a new prison on their constituency.
That’s alright, they haven’t increased capacity in health or housing either. Given that a prison would have elements of both, I’d imagine that meeting of cabinet to turn out something like the exorcist.
They blew this centuries entire prison expansion budget on buying unusable land in Ashbourne for 10 times the market value, from a TDs family member. Entire thing is covered in underground rivers, totally impossible to build on. Not a single survey done before they handed over the cheque. Everyone who lives here including the dogs in the street knew thornton is unusable, it’s why the fields that side of town from New bawn all the way down to thornton equestrian centre never became housing estates when Ashbourne was exploding in new housing estates. It’s a refugee centre now. Huge marquee style tents.
We need a new prison. It’s the only way of seriously increasing prisoner capacity
They haven’t increased Gardai numbers too I bet
Have those 1m people not been upstanding members of the community?
Martin Nolan can take a lot of credit for this
Same with the Gardai. There are actually about 500 fewer today than in 2008, thanks to the recruitment / retention crisis.
they just let go criminals especially minor cunts
And this is why the judicial system is incredibly lenient at the moment with nothing more than suspended sentences.
Until they improve prison infrastructure, nothing is going to change, and change is needed now more than ever with the increase in hostility on our streets.
Irish Government don’t do proactive planning
They allow things to deteriorate continuously until it becomes a crisis and a national scandal in the media and then they begin to talk about beginning to do something and *THEN* when the horse has bolted and died of old age they will do something
And then by the time they finally get around to implementing their fix the problem has grown past that fix rendering it useless and the problem continues
Unpopular opinion but I would prefer if we increased rehab facilities instead of building prisons. A lot of theft in Dublin is purely to feed addiction.
What good is endless prison spaces if people are robbing to feed their addiction and leaving prison to just start robbing again to feed their addiction? Some people need prison but a lot need rehab
You can hardly fix this overnight… /S
I wonder where all the FFG apologist bots are?
But Ireland definitely isn’t overpopulated because the measurement for overpopulation is definitely not infrastructure and public services.
Kip of a country! No wonder there’s riots. I hope we (society) tear them all down from their ivory towers!
Many existing prisons could be extended. A lot have ample green space adjacent. Why isn’t it happening ?
Nothing has been scaled to accommodate our population increase.
This is the problem with housing, GPs, hospitals etc.
No plans were made, no controls etc.
With the population forecasted over the coming years everything will get worse, housing, healthcare, schools etc
This is an issue that needs to be addressed, controlled, and planned for, and yet not a peep from politicians
Good. Crime levels are half what they were 20 years ago.
There are dozens, probably hundreds of empty cells in this country.
When they say they are at capacity they are measuring 1 prisoner to 1 cell. In reality, they all double up in cells. But prisoners don’t like doubling up so the senior management in the prisons avoid it.
The same senior management who let the prisoners have kettles. Televisions. PlayStations. We need less prisoner rights.
Those suspended sentences are a real life saver for the Government…
In 2009 there was massive overcrowding when I got a short sentence,this isn’t a new problem.
I never understand why the subject of building 2 new prisons is not high on politics and no one mention it.
Opposition parties should be pushing for this every day. There is no appetite.
I heard the prison population is between 12-17% above capacity.
I believe suspended sentences are giving to not overcrowd the system more.
Build a large modern prison to keep Irish people safe from serious criminals?
No, give corrupt RTE €725m for Fair City instead!
Keep this in mind when you hear McEntee and Harris talking tough on crime.
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Yea but the additional 1 million people are all very well behaved
Government – doesn’t increase any services.
Population – increases
Government – surprised?
The most politically acceptable way to increase the prison capacity would be to add extensions onto the current prisons.
Because no td in going to support building a new prison on their constituency.
That’s alright, they haven’t increased capacity in health or housing either. Given that a prison would have elements of both, I’d imagine that meeting of cabinet to turn out something like the exorcist.
They blew this centuries entire prison expansion budget on buying unusable land in Ashbourne for 10 times the market value, from a TDs family member. Entire thing is covered in underground rivers, totally impossible to build on. Not a single survey done before they handed over the cheque. Everyone who lives here including the dogs in the street knew thornton is unusable, it’s why the fields that side of town from New bawn all the way down to thornton equestrian centre never became housing estates when Ashbourne was exploding in new housing estates. It’s a refugee centre now. Huge marquee style tents.
We need a new prison. It’s the only way of seriously increasing prisoner capacity
They haven’t increased Gardai numbers too I bet
Have those 1m people not been upstanding members of the community?
Martin Nolan can take a lot of credit for this
Same with the Gardai. There are actually about 500 fewer today than in 2008, thanks to the recruitment / retention crisis.
they just let go criminals especially minor cunts
And this is why the judicial system is incredibly lenient at the moment with nothing more than suspended sentences.
Until they improve prison infrastructure, nothing is going to change, and change is needed now more than ever with the increase in hostility on our streets.
Irish Government don’t do proactive planning
They allow things to deteriorate continuously until it becomes a crisis and a national scandal in the media and then they begin to talk about beginning to do something and *THEN* when the horse has bolted and died of old age they will do something
And then by the time they finally get around to implementing their fix the problem has grown past that fix rendering it useless and the problem continues
Unpopular opinion but I would prefer if we increased rehab facilities instead of building prisons. A lot of theft in Dublin is purely to feed addiction.
What good is endless prison spaces if people are robbing to feed their addiction and leaving prison to just start robbing again to feed their addiction? Some people need prison but a lot need rehab
You can hardly fix this overnight… /S
I wonder where all the FFG apologist bots are?
But Ireland definitely isn’t overpopulated because the measurement for overpopulation is definitely not infrastructure and public services.
Kip of a country! No wonder there’s riots. I hope we (society) tear them all down from their ivory towers!
Many existing prisons could be extended. A lot have ample green space adjacent. Why isn’t it happening ?
Nothing has been scaled to accommodate our population increase.
This is the problem with housing, GPs, hospitals etc.
No plans were made, no controls etc.
With the population forecasted over the coming years everything will get worse, housing, healthcare, schools etc
This is an issue that needs to be addressed, controlled, and planned for, and yet not a peep from politicians
Good. Crime levels are half what they were 20 years ago.
https://tradingeconomics.com/ireland/population-reporting-occurrence-of-crime-violence-or-valism-in-their-area-eurostat-data.html
https://www.statista.com/statistics/945262/homicides-in-ireland/
Country is ran by incompetent clowns
There are dozens, probably hundreds of empty cells in this country.
When they say they are at capacity they are measuring 1 prisoner to 1 cell. In reality, they all double up in cells. But prisoners don’t like doubling up so the senior management in the prisons avoid it.
The same senior management who let the prisoners have kettles. Televisions. PlayStations. We need less prisoner rights.
Those suspended sentences are a real life saver for the Government…
In 2009 there was massive overcrowding when I got a short sentence,this isn’t a new problem.
I never understand why the subject of building 2 new prisons is not high on politics and no one mention it.
Opposition parties should be pushing for this every day. There is no appetite.
I heard the prison population is between 12-17% above capacity.
I believe suspended sentences are giving to not overcrowd the system more.
Build a large modern prison to keep Irish people safe from serious criminals?
No, give corrupt RTE €725m for Fair City instead!
Keep this in mind when you hear McEntee and Harris talking tough on crime.