UK visa applications from care workers fall sharply

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1. But but these riots were about taking back our country and showing it to those lazy immigrants/s

2. Care homes might actually have to pay more than minimum wage to find staff now

3. No doubt all those gentlemen who made verbal and physical expressions last week about taking Thier country back. Will be lining up to do Thier patriotic duty and helping out at the local care home.

4. Cool – Maybe they’ll start actually offering a fair wage then. 

   Nope, they’re just going to import foreign slave labourers instead and call anyone who doesn’t like it racist 👍

5. Does that mean less forgetful people and less abuse physical from imported humans

6. Speaking purely about my local area, a lot of employers either won’t sponsor anyone, or won’t sponsor anyone else. It’s incredibly difficult for anyone who is on a care limited visa to move on from a place they aren’t happy in so they’re effectively trapped in jobs that were painted as something other than what they’ve got, it’s not good for the workers or the clients.

7. Okay, then Labour needs to set something up with the DWP.

   You either train for a job and get it guaranteed or get a guaranteed job or instant sanction for a year.

   Which means you get one of the many jobs available guaranteed from a list.

   That way, we get many claimants who are able to work into work quickly and efficiently.

8. I wouldn’t mind working in care, but would want £20p/h

9. Literally no agencies or care homes are offering sponsorships in my area any more. You go on indeed and most of the care jobs listed have “NO SPONSORSHIP” in all caps right at the top.

10. My girlfriend’s mum works as a nurse in a care home. She is from another country but is against immigration into these positions. She was saying that a lot of people just say they work in care in their home country in order to move here under this route. In her experience they’re lbad at the jobs, no way near NHS standards from when she worked for the NHS. Anecdotal, but I find it annoying that it’s a route over here. The issue is the pay isn’t high enough to attract decent people.

    Relatives of care home residents pay thousands a week to have bad employees, it’s mental. I hope this isn’t the norm

11. The poorest age quicker so it won’t affect Tory politicians that supported this 

12. Been working in health care sector for 15 years . My take is if carers are paid what’s their job is actually worth , you don’t have to import workers from abroad .Same as nurses and doctors .

13. Good and good.

    We will simultaneously have to raise wages AND respect those that come to the cuntry to work.

    Win win so fuck it. Just because we get external workers doesn’t mean we should pay them less. We should pay them what they are fucking worth. And they are worth paying people the amount deserved for keeping our loved ones alive.

    If you don’t like that, do it yourself. It’s hard, it’s long and it requires training. Up the wage

14. Well at least those on the dole, will have no excuse when they say they only come for our jobs.

    By the way I don’t believe that statement, they only come for our jobs. I firmly believe we wouldn’t function as a country without legal migration, they do a stand up job and I am thankful for the care I received from a lovely nurse from Ghana

15. In my experience, and for the job I was doing at the time, which meant I interacted with care workers on a daly basis, the worst were the foreign workers. They were uncooperative, unhelpful and didn’t know basic things about the patients we were discussing such as mental competency or DNAPCR status. Mostly due to language issues.

    The best were women. and they deserved better pay and conditions particulalry during Covid.

    EDIT

    I better add I don’t blame people for emigrating for more money, I blame the care companies for putting people who couldn’t speak English well as overnight staff in care homes. It does have knock on effects, in delayed care for patients and increased costs for the NHS.

    It’s just another part of the UK that is just a mess, and I don’t know how you fix it. You can’t make people be good care workers, because it’s a demanding job that requires skills that can’t really be learnt, and the pay and conditions are terrible.

16. I work in domiciliary care and we are so short staffed My rota makes me want to cry daily.
    I wish all these immigrants would come and steal some of my work and give me a lighter load.

17. Instead of bringing immigrants to come and look after the old, maybe we should offshore the old to places where they can be looked after.

    Has anyone suggested this?

18. I use carer’s as a disabled male (23) and majority of the ones who have cared for me are from abroad here on visas from places like Africa, India and Pakistan.

    All I can say is they are definitely being underpaid, majority of the ones I have met are literally struggling to make ends meet.

    Hell one of them was from India literally struggling and I believe he was calling his wife and kids over but had literally one bed. At that point we was throwing out used furniture so gave him it instead and the guy was over the moon.

    It’s obvious now that the number of them coming in on visas is dropping they’ll have to start paying them higher wages, in turn making either more councils bankrupt or more cuts made for people needing care.

19. My mother has dementia and is now in a very good care home five minutes away from us. I am eternally grateful to the immigrant carers – from Southeast Asia, India, Africa, the Caribbean and Eastern Europe – who are compassionate, kind and come from cultures where older people are respected. Without them, the care sector would collapse.

20. Care workers requires a special sort of perseverance and caring attitude which you struggle to find at home. There’s very much a case to be made about UK’s addiction to foreign cheap labour in other parts of the economy but few brits are jumping to caring for the sick and elderly regardless of wage. (No disrespect to people who work in this industry, British citizen kr on a visa they are horribly underpaid and need more respect)

21. Well, Brexiteers finaly found the only way that immigration can possibly drop: make your country into a shithouse, so nobody wants to get in.

    Interesting turn of events: that also makes other countries not want **your** citizens to escape into **their** countries xD

22. This is almost entirely due to the fact that people coming to work in the UK on a carers visa can no longer bring their family with them.

    Some care companies have been abusing the system, bringing in way more carers on visas than they have work for and charging fees to the carers in advance. Also carers have been coming in to work minimum wage jobs for around £20k and bringing a wife and 4 or 5 children and claiming benefits, so are a deficit to the UK economy. Others are totally unsuited to a care role but see it as a route in to the UK – not good for the end user.

    However the actual villains are the care companies, even those who don’t charge fees and don’t have enough work, as they charge fortunes to local authorities yet pay their staff minimum wage.

    There appears to be misconception and plenty of sneering on here about British people not doing the job – thats not actually true, but you are talking about minimum wage work often carrying out intimate personal care, its hardly going to attract a plethora of applicants. Would you prefer to earn minimum wage stacking shelves in a supermarket or wiping a disabled or elderly persons backside 4 times a day ? This is a job that there will always be a requirement for overseas for until the care companies start paying a wage that befits the role and responsibilities.

23. Again, Brexit was a bad idea. The implementation of cut immigration policies are done just to pander to the sort of bigots who think that Douglas Murray is a great intellectual.