US air force avoids PFAS water cleanup, citing supreme court’s Chevron ruling | EPA says Tucson’s drinking water is contaminated but air force claims agency lacks authority to order cleanup

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1. Here we go. Didn’t expect it to start with the Air Force, yet it makes sense since navy didn’t even want to bother with NEC guidelines or IBC to make their buildings cheap a.f.

2. I wonder what the Commander in Chief, also overseeing the EPA, will say about that?

3. The whole goddamn country is just a military reservation now, every single square inch of it; you’d like to think that you’re a “citizen,” and that that means that you’ve got both Rights and Responsibilities, but that’s simply not so. You’re a *subject of the empire*, and you have *fully revocable privileges* that exist solely at the prerogative and discretion of the administrative and repressive state apparatuses.

4. Sounds like we need legislators to get off their asses and clarify this

5. Fucking Kangaroo Court.

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7. Serious question. This appears to be a good example of why overturning the Chevron Doctrine was a bad thing. An individual judge or panel of judges likely does not have better reasoning than a professional or panel of professionals. Judges may also be part of a stacked court in some cases, leading to potential bias on important issues. Individual judges may also be easily “persuaded” to rule a certain way, let’s say with expensive vacations.

   However, with that doctrine in effect, private companies could still basically stack an agency to try to favor their interests if they really wanted to. Ther have been many notable conflicts of interest with members of government orgs. For example, current and former members of the FCC working for telecom companies, current and former members of the SEC working for financial companies and banks. Agency positions may also change with each new presidency, leading to the same stacking problem as the courts.

   So I guess I’m wondering. Is the Chevron decision just manufacturing political drama? Both systems seem flawed in some ways. There must be another option that involves a system of x-examination of experts by judges, or something. Multiples of each, randomly selected, or something to avoid being able to “stack” specific individuals or “pack” agencies and courts.

8. Yea, cause fuck clean water, right?

9. Couldn’t the leader of the armed forces (freaking all of them) order the air force to cut this shit out?

10. Oof, thanks a lot Supreme Court.

    We need to kick these corrupt assholes to the curb, yesterday.

11. They got to go.