The UK has denied Ukraine permission to use Storm Shadow missiles in its Kursk offensive, despite President Zelenskyy’s requests for long-range missile strikes deep into Russia.

by vibrunazo

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  2. stop fuckin pussy footing around and let ukraine fight without one hand tied behind it’s back.

  3. Half measures are the same as none, get your heads out of your asses!

    There should be no restrictions on any of the equipment provided.

  4. Key point of the article:

    >The decision on how Storm Shadow missiles are employed is not solely up to the UK Government, as the missiles are co-manufactured with France, giving Paris a say in the matter as well.

    So it’s likely that UAF don’t get permission for thoses provided by France aswell.

    I’m so ashamed of that…

  5. Fuck the West for its weakness and insufficient help to Ukraine.

  6. Ffs. Let Ukraine fight how it needs to so it can win this war quicker than it will by putting restrictions in.

    It just doesn’t make sense to me. I do not believe russia will retaliate in a way that destroys the world because missiles made in the UK and France is used to stop them militarily.

  8. Fucking wimps. Russia is not a country to be scared of and Ukraine is proving that over and over. Stop fucking around and let Ukraine fight this war for the rest of the world because that’s what they are doing. Ukraine succeeding is good for all of us.

  9. The down side to democracy – a newly elected government doesn’t always have the same commitment as the previous one, whatever they said while campaigning

  10. The words “weak” and “infirm” come to mind here. We need to remember that the heroes of Ukraine aren’t just fighting for Ukrainian freedom, they’re fighting for all of our freedom. Imagine your neighbour’s property is on fire, the fire is heading your direction, and you won’t allow the neighbour access to your well. That’s how this feels to me.

  11. Well they are swift to adopt.

    They can infiltrate Russia, with a few groups, blending in.
    Sabotaging from within.

  12. Cmon france and UK, im guessing it’s more of France being the stopper here…

  13. On the other hand, north korean missiles hitting Ukraine is no problem. Is that it UK ?

    Or they’ll wait for Ukraine to lose a few thousand more troops and ground to give their OK? What a waste of time and lives.

  14. FFS Starmer. I’d be happy for our armed forces to go in. So at a minimum, give the Ukrainians the weapons they need and the freedom to use them fully.

  16. We are bound and determined to be in a shooting war in the next five years, aren’t we?

  18. The West: Give em hell, Ukraine.

    Also the West: Wait not like that

  19. Wasnt there a leak like 8 months back that the US overruled the UK allowing stormshadows on Russian soil? I believe people thought it was fake/misinformation at the time but it would explain why we havent seen their use on Russian territory.

  21. Hey now people calm down, we wouldn’t want to cause an escalation with Russia. /s

    This is from July “The United Kingdom has reaffirmed its stance on the autonomous use of Storm Shadow missiles provided to Ukraine, according to Bloomberg. Speaking to reporters while en route to a NATO summit in Washington on July 9, 2024, a UK representative emphasized that Ukraine has the final say in how these long-range missiles are deployed against military targets within Russia.”

    Has something changed? Doesn’t sound very autonomous. I suppose it’s because Ukraine is on the offensive and not just on defense.

  22. This is how South Vietnam was lost. They sure had muscle to fight but not the brain to keep on fighting in the eastern front

  23. Posting on X, formerly Twitter, Mr Zelensky shared a photograph of himself and Sir Keir, with the caption: “This morning, I learnt about the permission to use Storm Shadow missiles against military targets in Russian territory. Today, we had the opportunity to discuss the practical implementation of this decision.”

    Sources confirmed the missile has not been used this year and stressed that Mr Zelensky would have to “seek assurances elsewhere” before Ukraine could fire the cruise missiles into Russian territory. 

    They added that these assurances were not a done deal.

    A senior defence source said the situation was “more nuanced” than Ukraine’s president had suggested.

    **They added that permission to launch the strategic missile into Russia would require a sign off from three countries, one of which is the United Kingdom. France manufactures the Storm Shadow alongside the UK.**

    “It’s not going to happen,” the source added when asked if Ukraine will fire Storm Shadow into Russia.

    I can’t link to this, as it’s from the Telegraph – as is the OP article.

  25. I apologise for the fucking fannies running this country, fucking embarrassing. Edit – I’ve just realised i have a new local MP to hound mercilessly, so this is partly my fault, it will be rectified as soon as humanly possible.

  26. As a Brit, I disapprove of this. However, it’s worth pointing out that both StormShadow and ATACMS need mission involvement from US, UK and potentially France to effectively target and program routes. There’s probably a fine line between assisting Ukraine defend itself and aiding incursion into a sovereign state (even one that has invaded another).

    I await the downvotes, but that’s the situation

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