Russian forces are rapidly digging a network of trenches in Kursk Oblast, with only one catch: The trenches are 45km behind the border. Russian forces have been developing a trench network that, if fallen back to, would cede Ukraine a massive amount of territory.



by Fidler_2K

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  2. Maybe they’re planning on using more of their vacum bombs and other horrors on Ukrainian troops in Kursk.

  3. For those wondering why the russians are trying to establish defensive lines post haste, the NPP and last major railroad station are in close proximity roughly 40km from the current frontline of Kursk. The E38 Highway is critical for Ukraine to suppress to deny russian reinforcements.

    The railway station will likely be Ukraine’s primary focus as there are only two major rail way service in the region that connects to Belgorod. Capturing or destroying the station would effective cripple further russian offensive operations in Kharkiv.

  4. One other thing they could try, which seems to have worked very well in the past, is to burn Moscow to the ground. Then the invaders might just give up and go home.

  5. Need to dig trenches where there is a clear line of fire (area to fire) in front of the trenches.
    That sometimes means giving up some geography.

    Need to dig a complete line of trenches.
    If the system is half constructed when they are attacked the opponent merely goes thru the still solid areas.
    This sometimes means giving up geography to buy time to dig a complete trench line.

    Need to bring up artillery to cover the area in front of the trenches, and to be able to lay mines.
    This sometimes means giving up geography to buy time.

    Troops on the run can often be kept on the run. Turns into a rout.
    Bringing disorganized troops back, giving them a day or two to catch their breath, is sometimes necessary.

    Overall, a strategic retreat, made necessary by the brilliant surprise Ukraine attack.

  7. Makes sense. No point in making them too close to an enemy, so they overun them before you are finished.
    If you build further back first, you can then build closer later.
    Ukraine needs to move fast before Russia is entrenched, thought they aren’t going to have months of prep time to fortify like in the south.

  9. Well, far enough away to make sure they are not disturbed building it. There is some logic to it.
    Think of what Ukraine did. Not enough in terms of defensive lines, although these glide bombs make a constructive defense close to impossible…

  10. I wonder if they are going to put tank and anti-personal mines on their own territory?

  12. I’m actually surprised how effective trench defences can still be. Never would have thought of trench warfare this far in the 21st Century. How long has it been since they were effective?

  14. I really hope that a number of Ukrainian SOF groups have crossed into Kursk in civilian vehicles loaded with NLAWSs, MPADS and drones, and just disappeared into Russia. Can you imagine the chaos of them just roaming around sitting at the end of runways shooting aircraft out of the sky.

  15. The rasputitsa, normally in October, will bring a halt to offensive operations. It seems to me the Ukrainians timed the start date of this offensive to align with how long they believe it would take take Russia to move the necessary forces in place for a meaningful counterattack. At that point they can reinforce their own defensive positions, and assess the situation going forward. The more I see of this operation, the more impressed I become.

  16. One problem with trenches is, that you need troops to man them. Without troops the trenches are worthless.

    Ukraine either way achieved what they want.

  17. I mean, there are (were) already at least 2 lines of trenches closer to the border. It’s obvious that, if you are digging another one, you don’t dig it too close to the front.

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