They grifted too hard too soon. They should have played it straight for a few years til they faded from the social consciousness THEN grifted.
I’ve been heavily criticised for saying this but many charities are (at best) ineffective and (at worst) corrupt embezzlement networks.
I’m not sure what the point of this charity even is in the first place? Originally the stated goal for the Captain Tom campaign was to fundraise and give money to the NHS directly (ETA Which is of course fine and to be applauded), but it sounds like all this foundation has been doing since then is paying out grants to other charities from the money that people donate to them?
Regardless of whether or not they actually are legitimate or skimming, it still seems like a really inefficient way of doing it when surely people could just donate directly to those other charities in the first place, rather than the donations going through management costs etc for two separate charities
More in management fees than grants. Does this actually shock anyone who has paid attention to this family?
Its a pretty amazing story really. I smelt a rat when he died after missing his COVID vaccination to go on an all expenses paid free BA holiday to Barbados with his family over Christmas.
Put up a Captain Tom statue, I reckon. He and his charity represent British values more than I ever realised.
You just knew the attention seeking daughter has something to do with this
I never give money to big charities. They are businesses, nothing more and nothing less. I’ve worked in a few of them. Seen it from the inside.
I only ever donate to small local charities.
Charities should not have people earning tens of thousands of pounds . Charity is charity
The whole thing has been a bit fishy since the beginning.
I remember hearing rumours about his daughter while he was alive.
Doesn’t surprise me that these sorts of things are coming out now.
Calling it now, Capn Tom will be found living it up in Panama and hes only 60years old.
Is it 5-10p in the £ that actually ends up going to the charity? Its a fucking scam that needs to end
Oh well at least it made the public feel good about themselves for a few weeks. At least the daughter had a house conversion
So, sleeping at the wheel until prodded.
Usual regulatory authority and watchdog behaviour.
We sent £10 at the time, but this has really wound me up. Is there any method of clawing back donations?
Once this grift is shut down I hope Pen Farthing’s grift is next to be cancelled.
The charity commission will do fuck all.
I (and others) reported a fake charity. It was taking donations to buy a multi million pound purchase, but the only employee was taking 95% of the money, it would take thousands of years to achieve its aims.
The charity commission said that was fine, and asked the person running it to “try harder”
Any “charity” spending more than 25% amount on wages, unless those employees are directly providing the service, should be automatically wound up.
Before you can set up a new charity you should have to show there isn’t an existing one that already covers a substantive part of the cause. Would save on duplication of fundraising and running costs and stop all the ‘hobby’ charities started with the best of intentions that just divert money away.
It should be checking out the Salvation Army as well, they really cream it off.
It was thought to be dodgy from the get-go, however it was ignored because Capt Tom was the nation’s granddad by that point. Any criticism of him or his family was met with vitriol from people who did not want to entertain the idea that his family, not Capt Tom personally, were exploiting people’s love of the man.
Is anyone surprised? This happens all the time with charities, just look at David Milibands frankly absurd salary.
This is gonna be the ultimate hero to zero
Not gonna lie gives me some nice schadenfreude seeing virtually the entire country shown to be taken for mugs like that. How totally thick are we – old man walks round a garden and we’re all outside banging pots and pans – looking back, surely I’m not the only one who’s utterly embarrassed by it all?
I’ve quite often thought an easy way to make a fortune is to start a charity.
Problem is, I care too much. And I would actually give the money to the good cause.
I need to start giving less shits, could be a millionaire.
Bit off topic but something grinding my gears recently is the increasing amount self service checkouts in shops/restaurants asking us to round our purchases up to the nearest pound as a donation to their charity foundations.
Screw you mcdonalds guilt tripping me when I’m buying something off the pound saver menu. And Tesco when I’ve picking something up from the reductions section.
Hot tip – want a good salary? Work for a big charity.
Poor fella. Imagine fucking up your dad’s big moment in the spotlight.
God, I gave £20 to them. Kinda done with giving money to charity. I generally chose grassroots orgs over places like Oxfam, but I just wonder if this more encouragement for the government to do nothing about basic issues. Also, nothing more irritating like a corporation like Tesco asking me to round up my payment for a charity donation.
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They grifted too hard too soon. They should have played it straight for a few years til they faded from the social consciousness THEN grifted.
I’ve been heavily criticised for saying this but many charities are (at best) ineffective and (at worst) corrupt embezzlement networks.
I’m not sure what the point of this charity even is in the first place? Originally the stated goal for the Captain Tom campaign was to fundraise and give money to the NHS directly (ETA Which is of course fine and to be applauded), but it sounds like all this foundation has been doing since then is paying out grants to other charities from the money that people donate to them?
Regardless of whether or not they actually are legitimate or skimming, it still seems like a really inefficient way of doing it when surely people could just donate directly to those other charities in the first place, rather than the donations going through management costs etc for two separate charities
More in management fees than grants. Does this actually shock anyone who has paid attention to this family?
Its a pretty amazing story really. I smelt a rat when he died after missing his COVID vaccination to go on an all expenses paid free BA holiday to Barbados with his family over Christmas.
There is actually a Captain Tom gin out there: [https://www.otterbeckdistillery.co.uk/products/captain-sir-tom-s-london-dry-gin-70cl/](https://www.otterbeckdistillery.co.uk/products/captain-sir-tom-s-london-dry-gin-70cl/)
*Grifters gonna grift.*
Put up a Captain Tom statue, I reckon. He and his charity represent British values more than I ever realised.
You just knew the attention seeking daughter has something to do with this
I never give money to big charities. They are businesses, nothing more and nothing less. I’ve worked in a few of them. Seen it from the inside.
I only ever donate to small local charities.
Charities should not have people earning tens of thousands of pounds . Charity is charity
The whole thing has been a bit fishy since the beginning.
I remember hearing rumours about his daughter while he was alive.
Doesn’t surprise me that these sorts of things are coming out now.
Calling it now, Capn Tom will be found living it up in Panama and hes only 60years old.
Is it 5-10p in the £ that actually ends up going to the charity? Its a fucking scam that needs to end
Oh well at least it made the public feel good about themselves for a few weeks. At least the daughter had a house conversion
So, sleeping at the wheel until prodded.
Usual regulatory authority and watchdog behaviour.
We sent £10 at the time, but this has really wound me up. Is there any method of clawing back donations?
Once this grift is shut down I hope Pen Farthing’s grift is next to be cancelled.
The charity commission will do fuck all.
I (and others) reported a fake charity. It was taking donations to buy a multi million pound purchase, but the only employee was taking 95% of the money, it would take thousands of years to achieve its aims.
The charity commission said that was fine, and asked the person running it to “try harder”
Any “charity” spending more than 25% amount on wages, unless those employees are directly providing the service, should be automatically wound up.
Before you can set up a new charity you should have to show there isn’t an existing one that already covers a substantive part of the cause. Would save on duplication of fundraising and running costs and stop all the ‘hobby’ charities started with the best of intentions that just divert money away.
It should be checking out the Salvation Army as well, they really cream it off.
It was thought to be dodgy from the get-go, however it was ignored because Capt Tom was the nation’s granddad by that point. Any criticism of him or his family was met with vitriol from people who did not want to entertain the idea that his family, not Capt Tom personally, were exploiting people’s love of the man.
Is anyone surprised? This happens all the time with charities, just look at David Milibands frankly absurd salary.
This is gonna be the ultimate hero to zero
Not gonna lie gives me some nice schadenfreude seeing virtually the entire country shown to be taken for mugs like that. How totally thick are we – old man walks round a garden and we’re all outside banging pots and pans – looking back, surely I’m not the only one who’s utterly embarrassed by it all?
I’ve quite often thought an easy way to make a fortune is to start a charity.
Problem is, I care too much. And I would actually give the money to the good cause.
I need to start giving less shits, could be a millionaire.
Bit off topic but something grinding my gears recently is the increasing amount self service checkouts in shops/restaurants asking us to round our purchases up to the nearest pound as a donation to their charity foundations.
Screw you mcdonalds guilt tripping me when I’m buying something off the pound saver menu. And Tesco when I’ve picking something up from the reductions section.
Hot tip – want a good salary? Work for a big charity.
Poor fella. Imagine fucking up your dad’s big moment in the spotlight.
God, I gave £20 to them. Kinda done with giving money to charity. I generally chose grassroots orgs over places like Oxfam, but I just wonder if this more encouragement for the government to do nothing about basic issues. Also, nothing more irritating like a corporation like Tesco asking me to round up my payment for a charity donation.