[@crazyhouseprice](https://twitter.com/crazyhouseprice) posted this on Twitter but I wasn’t sure if I could link directly to the tweet on the submission.
Surely one couldn’t actually live in a classroom? Would they not be fucking baltic all the time?
Haha what fucking chancer has set these up? Also not a hope they’ve applied for planning permission to change this to a residential space by the looks of it. Totally against the law.
It has to be a pisstake, there’s no shower or bath from what I can see. There’s no way the Council gave the go ahead for this.
This government should pay for this (better word probably would be “hang” but I don’t want to be accused of inciting violence). Over the last 10 years their shitty housing politics led to this abomination. What scares me the most is that there are probably people who will think about renting those “rooms” as they are desperate enough.
There’s so much room for activities!
This org, [Monoma](https://monoma.eu/about-us), is supposed to be the letting agent. It seems pretty strange – I wonder if it is a stunt?
Jesus christ the absolute state of this country.
It’s a pisstake, sure there’s more than 3 rooms in the school
Eh that’s illegal
Honestly, at least it’s a good use for an abandoned building, though it would be obviously better if more furnishing would be added and added a proper kitchen and bathroom.
but tbh it is kinda nuts they are trying to reuse classroom desks and chairs for dining tables.
Looks like Chernobyl
There’s a microwave *and* washing machine, what a bargain!
For real though these sort of ads are disgusting when there are working families in hotel rooms and stuck in their parents houses. When is it going to end.
The fact this feels more likely real than a joke makes me question how far we’ve come as a society
I see absolutely nothing wrong with converting unused office blocks or schools etc etc for accommodation AS LONG as work is done on them to properly convert them and make them fit for purpose. A lot of cities in Europe have already started coverting office blocks into accommodation. If they’re just letting them out as is, then that’s atrocious
But you get a couch! TWO couches if you fold up your bed!
JACKPOT!!!
If it is real, at least it’s cheap
Could you imagine going out meeting a nice girl,
“do you wanna come back to my place? —- ya ,
—— Pulls up at local school
There’s a place across the road from UCD that’s clearly an old hotel that’s been converted into separate “apartments”. But it absolutely still feels like an old hotel. Went for a viewing there and it was one of the big shocks I got when I was moving away from home and doing my own thing. Had no idea that shit like that was going on.
Thats actually fucking miserable………..like something you would see in poverty stricken eastern european country.
Is this the bottom…no, no it isn’t.
Hahah charging squatters now, some laugh this country has become.
They’ve done this with another old school in the town before, just down the road for me. That one seems to be gone now.
From what I can tell, these buildings are still owned by the church, who get in a security company to maintain it. And, rather than pay someone to watch over the site at all times, they (the security company) rent out the rooms and basically always have the place being watched while being paid by the church and the tenants.
I think it seems a good idea in theory (short term, obvs.) but fuck me, those living conditions are shocking. I’d want to be fairly desperate before I live there.
Also €275pm seems reasonable when there’s small bedrooms going in the town for up to €130pw.
TL;DR: seems shady, possibly even illegal.
Bleak. Very, very bleak.
The only problem is you have to keep the windows open for ventilation.
New take on the term old school
When I first moved to Holland years ago I rented a room like this in Amsterdam in an abandoned mental hospital, it was €100pm, massive room and shared bathroom. Was a pretty cool place and great location tbh.
This is better than many actual houses in the market right now.
I wish the government knew how to build houses to end the housing crisis, but I guess that’s too much to ask to our politicians.
It takes like 1-2years to build an apartment block… who could possibly plan so far ahead in time!!
And its gone…
Gone now
did they took it down?
The ad is gone. Can anyone get a link to an archived version?
Ad is gone.
It’s been taken down. Tbh I would love a space like that as I’m an artist and Irish houses and flats never have any space to work in, and are so expensive that there’s no money left to rent a separate studio.
But I bet they’re freezing.
Advert seems to have been deleted- did anyone save a copy of it?
Tennants must vacate the premises from 8:30-3:00 Monday to Friday.
The real story here is that this school sits empty while the educate together on the other side of town makes do with prefabs.
Seems it’s been taken down already
Aaaaand it’s gone
This is no longer available it seems
Probably an unpopular opinion here. But if I was a student again being offered a large heated room like this for 200 quid a month I’d take your hand off.
It’s weird as fuck living arrangement , and unless you bring a good bit of your own furnishings it’s a grim looking room. But fuck me the money I’d have been able to spend on actually living / going out / eating out / travel would have utterly changed my college experience
“Bart you’re two weeks late on the rent! Not to mention late on that geography assignment from 30 years ago!”
New Ross is a kipp
It’s been touched on elsewhere but this type of set-up is called ‘property guardians’.
**TLDR:** *if you go anywhere near this type of scheme have your eyes wide open to the potential drawbacks which are roughly everything you would expect when a company advertises ‘Contemporary living solutions by creative use of space’…*
**In theory/sales brochure:**
* Building owner: gets cheap/no security fees (and may even get paid) & squatter protection
* Property Guardian firm: gets rent off residents after minimal conversion/fit out costs
* Licensees/guardians: get cheap rent and large spaces that are sometimes quite cool
**In reality:**
* Legalities are a bit sketchy, the rights of the occupants are usually reduced significantly below tenants
* The guardian firm has incentive to i] expend minimum money on upkeep (even less than a normal landlord – due to the temporary nature) ii] get as many people in as possible
* So overcrowding and sanitary issues can also arise (as well as fire safety) when many people are crammed into a building that wasn’t designed for the purpose
**Context (and also a case in point of the above:**
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[@crazyhouseprice](https://twitter.com/crazyhouseprice) posted this on Twitter but I wasn’t sure if I could link directly to the tweet on the submission.
https://twitter.com/crazyhouseprice/status/1492044785057734657
Surely one couldn’t actually live in a classroom? Would they not be fucking baltic all the time?
Haha what fucking chancer has set these up? Also not a hope they’ve applied for planning permission to change this to a residential space by the looks of it. Totally against the law.
https://www.daft.ie/share/michaels-st-new-ross-co-wexford/3700868
There you go lol.
It has to be a pisstake, there’s no shower or bath from what I can see. There’s no way the Council gave the go ahead for this.
This government should pay for this (better word probably would be “hang” but I don’t want to be accused of inciting violence). Over the last 10 years their shitty housing politics led to this abomination. What scares me the most is that there are probably people who will think about renting those “rooms” as they are desperate enough.
There’s so much room for activities!
This org, [Monoma](https://monoma.eu/about-us), is supposed to be the letting agent. It seems pretty strange – I wonder if it is a stunt?
Jesus christ the absolute state of this country.
It’s a pisstake, sure there’s more than 3 rooms in the school
Eh that’s illegal
Honestly, at least it’s a good use for an abandoned building, though it would be obviously better if more furnishing would be added and added a proper kitchen and bathroom.
but tbh it is kinda nuts they are trying to reuse classroom desks and chairs for dining tables.
Looks like Chernobyl
There’s a microwave *and* washing machine, what a bargain!
For real though these sort of ads are disgusting when there are working families in hotel rooms and stuck in their parents houses. When is it going to end.
The fact this feels more likely real than a joke makes me question how far we’ve come as a society
I see absolutely nothing wrong with converting unused office blocks or schools etc etc for accommodation AS LONG as work is done on them to properly convert them and make them fit for purpose. A lot of cities in Europe have already started coverting office blocks into accommodation. If they’re just letting them out as is, then that’s atrocious
But you get a couch! TWO couches if you fold up your bed!
JACKPOT!!!
If it is real, at least it’s cheap
Could you imagine going out meeting a nice girl,
“do you wanna come back to my place? —- ya ,
—— Pulls up at local school
There’s a place across the road from UCD that’s clearly an old hotel that’s been converted into separate “apartments”. But it absolutely still feels like an old hotel. Went for a viewing there and it was one of the big shocks I got when I was moving away from home and doing my own thing. Had no idea that shit like that was going on.
Thats actually fucking miserable………..like something you would see in poverty stricken eastern european country.
Is this the bottom…no, no it isn’t.
Hahah charging squatters now, some laugh this country has become.
They’ve done this with another old school in the town before, just down the road for me. That one seems to be gone now.
From what I can tell, these buildings are still owned by the church, who get in a security company to maintain it. And, rather than pay someone to watch over the site at all times, they (the security company) rent out the rooms and basically always have the place being watched while being paid by the church and the tenants.
I think it seems a good idea in theory (short term, obvs.) but fuck me, those living conditions are shocking. I’d want to be fairly desperate before I live there.
Also €275pm seems reasonable when there’s small bedrooms going in the town for up to €130pw.
TL;DR: seems shady, possibly even illegal.
Bleak. Very, very bleak.
The only problem is you have to keep the windows open for ventilation.
New take on the term old school
When I first moved to Holland years ago I rented a room like this in Amsterdam in an abandoned mental hospital, it was €100pm, massive room and shared bathroom. Was a pretty cool place and great location tbh.
This palce
https://www.bovenij.nl/BovenIJ/Wie_zijn_wij/BovenIJ-geschiedenis/Het_Juliana_ziekenhuis.html
This is better than many actual houses in the market right now.
I wish the government knew how to build houses to end the housing crisis, but I guess that’s too much to ask to our politicians.
It takes like 1-2years to build an apartment block… who could possibly plan so far ahead in time!!
And its gone…
Gone now
did they took it down?
The ad is gone. Can anyone get a link to an archived version?
Ad is gone.
It’s been taken down. Tbh I would love a space like that as I’m an artist and Irish houses and flats never have any space to work in, and are so expensive that there’s no money left to rent a separate studio.
But I bet they’re freezing.
Advert seems to have been deleted- did anyone save a copy of it?
Tennants must vacate the premises from 8:30-3:00 Monday to Friday.
The real story here is that this school sits empty while the educate together on the other side of town makes do with prefabs.
Seems it’s been taken down already
Aaaaand it’s gone
This is no longer available it seems
Probably an unpopular opinion here. But if I was a student again being offered a large heated room like this for 200 quid a month I’d take your hand off.
It’s weird as fuck living arrangement , and unless you bring a good bit of your own furnishings it’s a grim looking room. But fuck me the money I’d have been able to spend on actually living / going out / eating out / travel would have utterly changed my college experience
“Bart you’re two weeks late on the rent! Not to mention late on that geography assignment from 30 years ago!”
New Ross is a kipp
It’s been touched on elsewhere but this type of set-up is called ‘property guardians’.
**TLDR:** *if you go anywhere near this type of scheme have your eyes wide open to the potential drawbacks which are roughly everything you would expect when a company advertises ‘Contemporary living solutions by creative use of space’…*
**In theory/sales brochure:**
* Building owner: gets cheap/no security fees (and may even get paid) & squatter protection
* Property Guardian firm: gets rent off residents after minimal conversion/fit out costs
* Licensees/guardians: get cheap rent and large spaces that are sometimes quite cool
**In reality:**
* Legalities are a bit sketchy, the rights of the occupants are usually reduced significantly below tenants
* The guardian firm has incentive to i] expend minimum money on upkeep (even less than a normal landlord – due to the temporary nature) ii] get as many people in as possible
* So overcrowding and sanitary issues can also arise (as well as fire safety) when many people are crammed into a building that wasn’t designed for the purpose
**Context (and also a case in point of the above:**
* This brand ‘monoma’ [https://www.monoma.eu/en-nl](https://www.monoma.eu/en-nl) would appear to be a sub-brand of umbrella group ‘Camelot Europe’, one of the large original companies [https://cameloteurope.com/?lang=ga](https://cameloteurope.com/?lang=ga) (this property guardian concept originated in the Netherlands)
* Camelot Europe (UK version) got sued out of existance for licensing illegalities in the UK [https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/property-guardian-company-prosecuted-over-former-care-home-where-more-than-30-guardians-lived-with-one-kitchen-274724/amp](https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/property-guardian-company-prosecuted-over-former-care-home-where-more-than-30-guardians-lived-with-one-kitchen-274724/amp)
More info (mostly UKy, sorry):
[https://propertyguardianresearch.wordpress.com/property-guardianship-international/](https://propertyguardianresearch.wordpress.com/property-guardianship-international/)
[https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/property-guardians-fact-sheet/property-guardians-a-fact-sheet-for-current-and-potential-property-guardians](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/property-guardians-fact-sheet/property-guardians-a-fact-sheet-for-current-and-potential-property-guardians)
Funny related story:
[https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/27/london-protesters-occupy-former-hq-of-property-management-firm](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/27/london-protesters-occupy-former-hq-of-property-management-firm)