Ukraine Has Found a Path to Victory

https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2024/08/ukraine-has-found-a-path-to-victory.html

by Noidea_whats_goingon

11 comments
  1. Forcing Russia to attack their own land, where they have to be more careful, as winter approaches…beautiful.  

    Russia will also have to keep up the pressure during the winter: they can’t allow Ukraine to entrench.  

    I’m just hoping Ukraine can force Russia to redeploy enough to make a hole or weak spot somewhere, and then shove an armored, spiked fist up their ass.   And then…

    …anal carnage. 

  2. He makes an interesting point I hadn’t thought of. Ukraine is fighting on Russian land so they can change their fighting style. In Ukraine they had at least a moral obligation to defend all Ukrainian land and all Ukrainian citizens. They don’t have that obligation in Kursk. If it’s advantageous to give up land or redeploy somewhere else for tactical reasons, they can do that. They won’t be “abandoning their people”. His point was they can focus more strictly on the military imperatives of going where the military position is most advantageous and thereby giving the Russians a tougher fight. They can choose their avenues of attack more cleanly and concentrate forces more effectively.

  3. I’m all for Ukraine taking the fight to Russia but this is costing them dearly on the eastern front.

  4. Is the path in the room with us now..
    really though, I don’t see how this isn’t just a delay to inevitable. Russia has centuries of experience fighting long wars where they play the role of aggressors. Not a good thing, expect you know, when fighting a war.

    They’d like for us to think “Russia is embarrassed, putin is humiliated, etc.” but reality is never so black and white. I guess it’s just the other side of the propaganda coin I’m exposed too.

  5. Putin’s only path to victory is re-electing Trump by convincing progressive voters that it’s worth sacrificing Ukraine to Putin for the sake of “liberating Palestine”.

  6. The experience of pain and uncertainty upon those that support Putin is key. He already looks a fool but those that support him have to become worried and scared before anything actionable will happen.

    Putin, et al, are depraved enough to say “f it” and not put adequate resources toward stopping the Ukranian advance on Russian soil. Instead they might let Ukraine continue the Kursk assault, thinking they’ll deal with the incursion later. This of course implies that Moscow gives zero shits about the Russian citizens under invasion. Putin not giving a shit about Russian citizens is a very reasonable assumption.

  7. Took a page from Sun Tzu with this unexpected maneuver

  8. I suspect that this has been the strategy all along from the beginning of the war and everything up to this point had been a setup.
    Rand has the smartest people in the world playing war games and unlike in Russia, the US leaders (mostly) listen to smart people on their payrolls instead of assassinating them.

  9. 300 miles to Moscow…

    Puttie has to be nervous by now.

  10. Not to mention, even if the Ukrainian leave Kursk to go back home, the Russians will never know how many sleeper cells have now been deployed in any village or forest. They can lie in wait for the right time to activate and cause maximum mayhem.

  11. I think the main advantage of the Kursk incursion has been taking the initiative. I think UA needs to play on mobility to keep the initiative to identify weak spots in the front and increase chaos in RU organisation.

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