Can’t even get 2 pints for €10, the traditional local will die.
Sad to see loss of business but the drinking culture in this country is declining and that can only be a good thing.
A lot more coffee shops have opened and they seem to be taking their place.
Only so much ripping off the public can take
Drinking a bit less is probably good for us, but it is a sad situation. Pubs have always been the big, and sometimes only, social hubs for people in a lot of towns around the country.
Industry did it to itself while fleecing us. They deserve it.
I think they should go back to the original brief. Make it a public house, allow people to use it as such, stop focusing on alcohol.
The pub used to be a place where the whole family went, there was entertainment for everybody because of that. They removed the kids and the entertainment and turned many pubs into drinking holes. Obviously it wasn’t great that adults where getting drunk around children but it was much more of a community facility, they killed that side of things.
And we have one of the highest per capita rates of pubs in the world. This should be seen for what it is – blatant industry lobbying.
That’s a positive
I gotta say Im definitely seasonal with the pub. During the summer I’d be more inclined to be out and about than cosy in. Autumn to spring I’m there. But I certainly wouldn’t mind some late night, non alcohol based outings.
No one to blame but themselves
*whispers
“It’s the fucking price of pints. Fucking obviously.”
Would like to see some details on those figures.
I wonder how many were a family buisness, with nobody to take over?
How many were rented/leased premises unable to sustain high rents, etc.
The irish times podcast yesterday claimed that the closure rate for bars and restaurants is up to 2 per day for the past 12 months.
Fine Gael are the no craic party, they don’t care. Work till you collapse on your couch and only have the energy to drink over priced wine at home.
I saw this press release hit a load of media outlets this morning and the numbers just don’t make sense to me. They say 114 pubs close a year nationwide. 114 divided by 26 is 4.5 pubs a year. Now I know this is most likely weighted towards the bigger counties but in my normal sized county, I count about 6 or 7 pubs that have closed since covid. I’d love to see a list of the pub closures.
How many emergency departments have we lost in the same time? This should be bigger news than “outdated business model phasing out”
The local used to be more of a communal thing, from what I gather, since I was going to pubs that was well dead in most the country, but like back in the day it didn’t seem to cost so much, and sounds like it was much more social, like my parents talk about when father Ted initially came out everyone would go down and watch it in the pub
WHY ARE NO POLITICIANS TALKING ABOUT THIS?
The Irish media’s concern with the decline of alcohol use in Ireland stands in stark contrast with their role in spreading cannabis misinformation.
2 pubs per week? So Ireland should be grand until we start colonising other solar systems.
Probably a demographic thing but I’m in my early 40s and people I know my age don’t really go to a pub regularly. Might go for a drink before or after a meal or to watch a match but it’s rarely a destination in and of itself.
The biggest pub closest to me closed during covid and is now a gym. I’d say that’s probably a healthier thing all around.
We still have some *7,856* pubs in this country, the third highest per capita in the world.
As usual, Newstalk article completely omits to mention that. Complete shills for business as per usual.
Most pubs are low grade boxes of aging furniture and clients, they’re from an age before there were other things to do of an evening or weekend afternoon. Complaining about them.closing is like moaning about phone boxes vanishing from the roadside. There’s no right to a pub existing it’s a business in decline as the world changes. Like newspapers it might be sad to see their steady decline into societal irrelevance but it’s not worth trying to save them either.
There’s over 7,000 pubs in the country. We’re drinking less alcohol than we used to, and the cost of drinking in a pub is a lot higher than at home. Add it all together and this just looks like a market slowly correcting itself for a new cultural and economic normal.
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Can’t even get 2 pints for €10, the traditional local will die.
Sad to see loss of business but the drinking culture in this country is declining and that can only be a good thing.
A lot more coffee shops have opened and they seem to be taking their place.
Only so much ripping off the public can take
Drinking a bit less is probably good for us, but it is a sad situation. Pubs have always been the big, and sometimes only, social hubs for people in a lot of towns around the country.
Industry did it to itself while fleecing us. They deserve it.
I think they should go back to the original brief. Make it a public house, allow people to use it as such, stop focusing on alcohol.
The pub used to be a place where the whole family went, there was entertainment for everybody because of that. They removed the kids and the entertainment and turned many pubs into drinking holes. Obviously it wasn’t great that adults where getting drunk around children but it was much more of a community facility, they killed that side of things.
And we have one of the highest per capita rates of pubs in the world. This should be seen for what it is – blatant industry lobbying.
That’s a positive
I gotta say Im definitely seasonal with the pub. During the summer I’d be more inclined to be out and about than cosy in. Autumn to spring I’m there. But I certainly wouldn’t mind some late night, non alcohol based outings.
No one to blame but themselves
*whispers
“It’s the fucking price of pints. Fucking obviously.”
Would like to see some details on those figures.
I wonder how many were a family buisness, with nobody to take over?
How many were rented/leased premises unable to sustain high rents, etc.
The irish times podcast yesterday claimed that the closure rate for bars and restaurants is up to 2 per day for the past 12 months.
Fine Gael are the no craic party, they don’t care. Work till you collapse on your couch and only have the energy to drink over priced wine at home.
I saw this press release hit a load of media outlets this morning and the numbers just don’t make sense to me. They say 114 pubs close a year nationwide. 114 divided by 26 is 4.5 pubs a year. Now I know this is most likely weighted towards the bigger counties but in my normal sized county, I count about 6 or 7 pubs that have closed since covid. I’d love to see a list of the pub closures.
Or even better, does anyone have the historical liquor licenses for ever year? So this file https://www.revenue.ie/en/corporate/documents/statistics/excise/liquor-licences.pdf but going back 20 years
Where did they go!? We must find them!
God help us
How many emergency departments have we lost in the same time? This should be bigger news than “outdated business model phasing out”
The local used to be more of a communal thing, from what I gather, since I was going to pubs that was well dead in most the country, but like back in the day it didn’t seem to cost so much, and sounds like it was much more social, like my parents talk about when father Ted initially came out everyone would go down and watch it in the pub
WHY ARE NO POLITICIANS TALKING ABOUT THIS?
The Irish media’s concern with the decline of alcohol use in Ireland stands in stark contrast with their role in spreading cannabis misinformation.
2 pubs per week? So Ireland should be grand until we start colonising other solar systems.
Probably a demographic thing but I’m in my early 40s and people I know my age don’t really go to a pub regularly. Might go for a drink before or after a meal or to watch a match but it’s rarely a destination in and of itself.
The biggest pub closest to me closed during covid and is now a gym. I’d say that’s probably a healthier thing all around.
We still have some *7,856* pubs in this country, the third highest per capita in the world.
As usual, Newstalk article completely omits to mention that. Complete shills for business as per usual.
Most pubs are low grade boxes of aging furniture and clients, they’re from an age before there were other things to do of an evening or weekend afternoon. Complaining about them.closing is like moaning about phone boxes vanishing from the roadside. There’s no right to a pub existing it’s a business in decline as the world changes. Like newspapers it might be sad to see their steady decline into societal irrelevance but it’s not worth trying to save them either.
That’s the free market for you.
Ireland ‘third in world’ for pubs per person, says HRB https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0417/1443978-alcohol-ireland/
There’s over 7,000 pubs in the country. We’re drinking less alcohol than we used to, and the cost of drinking in a pub is a lot higher than at home. Add it all together and this just looks like a market slowly correcting itself for a new cultural and economic normal.