There will be mo cost of living, if wages ALSO rise..
The billionaires are also in a crisis, wondering which bitcoin offers the best anonymity and increases their wealth even more.
> historical evidence suggests voters could quickly turn against Tories
In the last 72 years there has been a Tory government for 45 of them – and for the last 12 of them.
Define ‘quickly’?
For a few days until the next story comes out, and then they’ll continue to bend over while asking for more.
Yeah, but Labour hasn’t promised to do jack shit about Taxes, they promised increased taxes for online Giants (they will charge you more) and Lower for the High school (Will they lower prices?
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If Labour want my Vote, THEY MUST promise to lower all Taxes, simply slashing VAT will save a lot of money.
>voters could quickly turn against Tories
Narrator: *they didn’t*
There is no doubt, if you hit the workers pocket hard they will start to detest you. No amount of spin will rectify that situation.
The problem is the Government has spun aggressively the last decade and we now see all that spin unravelling. You can’t spin people losing income each month, they’ll resent it, and ultimately just stop listening (we have already seen signs of this).
My thoughts are we are entering a true techno-feudalistic perma-austerity era, and the stuff that could ‘save’ the country (NOT its service industries, nor non-existent manufacturing) such as Bio/Pharma/Nano/AI have had far too little investment the last few decades as to never catch up with our competitors.
The reality is we are a country stripped of our assets and wealth siphoned offshore and really are a shell (Jonathan Pie put it excellently in his NYT YouTube) video.
The Conservatives future is over! I have a count down to the next General Election, gonna tent out side the polling booth, so I can be one of the first to f*ck these c*nts out in their ass! Really can’t wait 🤤
No, the British public are so mind bogglingly stupid they like licking the boots of their Tory masters. I’ve seen it over and over again.
The idea that the Conservatives are somehow a party of fiscal responsibility is a bad joke at this point.
They have precisely zero vision, and even less ability. They cannot plan further than the end of their nose. It’s borderline criminal how incompetent they are, and if we’re in any other job other than government, would have been fired long ago.
Always voted for the greens. I think if they got a shot they could be a promising alternative.
For a time, however they will return and history will repeat itself as people forget the years of economic downturn once their bank balances are healthy again. The Tories have never been friends of the working class and never will be. Turning against them briefly is not enough, it needs to be permanent.
If voters really understood the First Past The Post voting mechanism and so why we are in this mess, they would push for Electoral Reform.
FPTP keeps the Tories in power, time and time again. Whereas under MMPR, they would be forced to offer some policies of substance, else they would be genuinely punished at the polls.
With FPTP our votes aren’t representative of the will of the people, and we have a minority government. Most people DIDN’T vote for them, yet they claim a “mandate” to dictate the entirety of a Union of nations. This makes NO sense.
We desperately need reform, and I legitimately cannot understand why more people don’t push for it.
I don’t think so. History didn’t have Brexit but today Boris got Brexit done… It’s very different.
Austerities forced on us under Cameron was bad enough for working class, now cost of living eruption and rising bills is far worse. Do not see much levelling up likely to happen under this party.
The Tories have, since 1980, done fairly well amongst the lower middle class. These folk tend to be fairly houseproud, often a bit ostentatious relative to their actual income/assets, and thus could quite quickly fall into the “fur coat, no knickers” trap if energy prices continue to climb. Mr. Sunak knows this, and is thus looking for arguably far more interventionism than would have been the case in say, the early 1980s.
Hit your population in the pocket and give them nothing in return, even devout Tories will turn. Realistically, most people vote based on taxation, and Labour typically taxes higher. Yet, they tend to spend more on public services. And those who do care about more than tax, the Tories are dropping scandal after scandal.
With cost of living skyrocketing, taxes going up with it, with very little to show for it, Labour has a biggest opportunity to get in over a decade. Starmer’s more central stance can pull in more right wingers across than Corbyn ever could have and even the far left will never defect to a Tory government.
Labour won’t do much better imo, the British government will always be a shitshow, but certainly the lesser of two evils.
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There will be mo cost of living, if wages ALSO rise..
The billionaires are also in a crisis, wondering which bitcoin offers the best anonymity and increases their wealth even more.
> historical evidence suggests voters could quickly turn against Tories
In the last 72 years there has been a Tory government for 45 of them – and for the last 12 of them.
Define ‘quickly’?
For a few days until the next story comes out, and then they’ll continue to bend over while asking for more.
Yeah, but Labour hasn’t promised to do jack shit about Taxes, they promised increased taxes for online Giants (they will charge you more) and Lower for the High school (Will they lower prices?
​
If Labour want my Vote, THEY MUST promise to lower all Taxes, simply slashing VAT will save a lot of money.
>voters could quickly turn against Tories
Narrator: *they didn’t*
There is no doubt, if you hit the workers pocket hard they will start to detest you. No amount of spin will rectify that situation.
The problem is the Government has spun aggressively the last decade and we now see all that spin unravelling. You can’t spin people losing income each month, they’ll resent it, and ultimately just stop listening (we have already seen signs of this).
My thoughts are we are entering a true techno-feudalistic perma-austerity era, and the stuff that could ‘save’ the country (NOT its service industries, nor non-existent manufacturing) such as Bio/Pharma/Nano/AI have had far too little investment the last few decades as to never catch up with our competitors.
The reality is we are a country stripped of our assets and wealth siphoned offshore and really are a shell (Jonathan Pie put it excellently in his NYT YouTube) video.
The Conservatives future is over! I have a count down to the next General Election, gonna tent out side the polling booth, so I can be one of the first to f*ck these c*nts out in their ass! Really can’t wait 🤤
No, the British public are so mind bogglingly stupid they like licking the boots of their Tory masters. I’ve seen it over and over again.
The idea that the Conservatives are somehow a party of fiscal responsibility is a bad joke at this point.
They have precisely zero vision, and even less ability. They cannot plan further than the end of their nose. It’s borderline criminal how incompetent they are, and if we’re in any other job other than government, would have been fired long ago.
Always voted for the greens. I think if they got a shot they could be a promising alternative.
For a time, however they will return and history will repeat itself as people forget the years of economic downturn once their bank balances are healthy again. The Tories have never been friends of the working class and never will be. Turning against them briefly is not enough, it needs to be permanent.
If voters really understood the First Past The Post voting mechanism and so why we are in this mess, they would push for Electoral Reform.
FPTP keeps the Tories in power, time and time again. Whereas under MMPR, they would be forced to offer some policies of substance, else they would be genuinely punished at the polls.
With FPTP our votes aren’t representative of the will of the people, and we have a minority government. Most people DIDN’T vote for them, yet they claim a “mandate” to dictate the entirety of a Union of nations. This makes NO sense.
We desperately need reform, and I legitimately cannot understand why more people don’t push for it.
I don’t think so. History didn’t have Brexit but today Boris got Brexit done… It’s very different.
Austerities forced on us under Cameron was bad enough for working class, now cost of living eruption and rising bills is far worse. Do not see much levelling up likely to happen under this party.
The Tories have, since 1980, done fairly well amongst the lower middle class. These folk tend to be fairly houseproud, often a bit ostentatious relative to their actual income/assets, and thus could quite quickly fall into the “fur coat, no knickers” trap if energy prices continue to climb. Mr. Sunak knows this, and is thus looking for arguably far more interventionism than would have been the case in say, the early 1980s.
Hit your population in the pocket and give them nothing in return, even devout Tories will turn. Realistically, most people vote based on taxation, and Labour typically taxes higher. Yet, they tend to spend more on public services. And those who do care about more than tax, the Tories are dropping scandal after scandal.
With cost of living skyrocketing, taxes going up with it, with very little to show for it, Labour has a biggest opportunity to get in over a decade. Starmer’s more central stance can pull in more right wingers across than Corbyn ever could have and even the far left will never defect to a Tory government.
Labour won’t do much better imo, the British government will always be a shitshow, but certainly the lesser of two evils.