Some good replies too, many in Ireland are doing the work, but you know how it goes, money talks.
Waiting for the map of “number of maps shared daily on country’s subreddits”
Basically a topographic map of Europe.
It’s in part the fault of all those nimby people. We can’t build water and sewage treatment plants.
This does not surprise me *at all.* A friend of mine requested info/advice on swift nesting boxes, bat boxes and owl nesting boxes as well as advice on appropriate local species plantings, and also offered to open his land to wildlife rangers for bat studies, moth and butterfly counts, and any other studies they could think of. Despite his repeated contact and offers there was absolutely no useful response or visit from a wildlife ranger. He’s getting all his info from the net now, even though it’s often UK slanted info, not Ireland specific.
Edit; His land borders an SPA (Special Protection Area) on a Lough.
How do we get us some more of that tegrity?
Maybe if the government introduces a tax of some sort the problem will be solved
We need to use less land for farming.
We need more forestry!
And not native forestry! We need non-native Sitka spruce forestry, that’s farmed so the tightly together that no light touches the ground so the ground can sustain next to no life!
Is there any ongoing efforts to reforest parts of Ireland? If so I’d love to get behind it
Brilliant a map that is completely useless for those who are red green colour blind
Maybe we don’t like the ecology.
We’re trying to change it to that seen in bladerunner
Seriously what happened that Ireland was turned into countless empty fields? Who owns the fields now? Does anybody really know what happened here? Cause the history books are a pack of lies
We need more Tegridy
This is hardly surprising, the yearly budget for the National Parks and Wildlife service is just €47 million. To put that in perspective, we give €20 million a year to the greyhound racing industry. Our priorities are all wrong.
Is this because of farmland? What’s going on there?
Not in the least bit surprising. Ireland is a wasteland for biodiversity. We think we live in this gorgeous piece of heaven with green natural fields when it’s just ecologically dead farmland. We’ve destroyed this land for all our other inhabitants, its way past the time when something should have been done. Every inch of this land did not need to be ripped up for farmland.
Our national parks are pathetically small – all could fit into Snowdonia National Park in Wales. And the ones we do have still have sheep on them and are still planted with Sitka spruce plantations so I use the term national park very loosely. They’re also barely managed as the government puts so little resources into it.
We did / do have a chance, lots of farmers were selling up in places like Leitrim which could have been an opportunity to return that land to nature but no, we have to plant Sitka spruce plantations on them to further destroy it and make more money off it because that is all that’s important.
Didier Drogba levels of disgrace
As long as we’re afraid to confront our animal agriculture this is how it’s going to stay
Island is basically just a big farm. We’ve no high mountains or unfarmable areas and we massively overweight the importance of intensive agriculture to our economy. We should be doing less and at much bigger quality, selling at a premium. Instead we seem to just chase volume. I mean, take something like producing vast amounts of powdered milk, most of which gets used in other branded products – baby formula etc, and Irish agriculture seems to gain little from it, other than more and more cows, often farmed at little profit and dependency on subsidies.
Something very wrong with how we manage land and what we’re incentivising.
Even from a tourism point of view, a lot of Ireland stinks of slurry due to the sheer volume of the stuff we are disposing of by spraying it.
Everything seems to come down to intensive farming and lobbying on its behalf.
We’re also now heading into a situation where we won’t say boo to farmers, so we’ll overshoot our carbon emissions targets and place all the burden on householders, transport etc which is extremely expensive to fix, while basically subsidising CO2 emissions from agriculture, imagining that we are living in an agrarian economy, because it’s so baked into our mid 20th century view of self.
No surprises there. People hate trees in Ireland.
Communities need to start getting together and getting to know people better. We no longer know our neighbors or people who life directly across from us. The lack of integrity has led to a massive distrust in this country
Ireland has the least forest cover of any eu nation despite having been the most densely forested European country a few hundred years ago. It’s very sad.
Coilte are useless and are for profit and are doing more harm than good.
England saw to that many many moons ago.
I’m an ecologist and I’m in this picture.
Flat fucking farmland far as the eye can see. Would sicken your hole.
Some colossal forests would be amazing.
Build more houses! That’ll fix it!!
Belmullet to Clifton has a little bit more integrity by its sheep to people ratio
No no – don’t you realise? They’re reforesting with on-shore wind turbines! Rejoice!
The amount of people shiteing on about forestry in Ireland with no knowledge on the subject here is a disgrace. If people did any research into how forestry is being run now we would be a lot better off. Forestry just takes a long time to change due to the long rotation times
deadwood island
is this just a map of farmland?
Cyprus has a massive DMZ down the middle of it, what’s our excuse?
I think something like [this](https://images.app.goo.gl/Yuzqbj5vyjQUmnd66) is the image people have in their heads when they think of the Irish countryside. But what’s the point of it? Could someone give a sensible guess as to how many people all of that land is feeding? And how? (The cows are obvious.)
Why are there so many green fields and so little food?
Look at those Estonians go.
Not really lads theres literally nothing being grown in the fields, and not that much livestock either. Just empty fields. And it’s being kept that way by the Irish government too they’re as bad if not worse than the Brits ffs
That would be an ecological matter
Agriculture destroyed whatever natural environment there was in Ireland hundreds of years ago. The mass extinction horse bolted in Ireland long before we were born.
I remember reading George Monbiot’s ‘Feral: Rewilding the Land, Sea and Human Life’, and it completely changed how I looked at the land.
Athough mainly in reference to the UK, when he wrote about bleakly beautiful but essentially dead landscapes it hit home.
Edit: title of the book
this is utterly shameful
We need more trees- we have the least trees to area of all Europe.
From this picture you can see why Ireland is the most food secure country in the world.
Ireland’s green pastoral landscape is by definition an ecological disaster. We’re one of the most heavily deforested countries in the world and considering how much of our forestry went to build Nelson’s army, you’d think we’d give more of a fuck about it.
Actually, we actively seem to dislike trees. I live in Fingal and the council loves the idea of cutting down as many trees as it can get away with. Years ago we even had one of the Green Party councillors actively commending himself on the work he did getting the last vestige of one of North Dublin’s ancient forests decimated.
We’re not an agricultural nation anymore. We get more of our GDP from aerospace than we do farming. Let’s replant the forests already.
Would love to see a map of the whole planet with this. Interesting to see just how big of a scourge we are to the only place we ever lived on.
I used to live in Alsace, in the east of France on the Rhine – and the difference between the nature found there are here was substantial, far more forests, and in those forests it was not rare for the keen observer to spot red deer or chamoix in the mountains. And this is a place that has a population density multiple times that of Ireland. There is not an inch of anything left remotely resembling a natural area here, and it’s to the detriment of our quality of life
My grandfather said when he was a kid he used to hear the curlew all summer at night. Back before mechanised farming.
Now they’re ground up when the silage cutters come. If there’s even any left. All ground nesting birds in Ireland are absolutely fucked.
Ireland’s ecological issues are so clear yet we still have to listen to people like David McWilliams misleadingly claim we are the least densely populated country in Europe.
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Found it here: https://twitter.com/BenGoldsmith/status/1491195542575394816
Some good replies too, many in Ireland are doing the work, but you know how it goes, money talks.
Waiting for the map of “number of maps shared daily on country’s subreddits”
Basically a topographic map of Europe.
It’s in part the fault of all those nimby people. We can’t build water and sewage treatment plants.
This does not surprise me *at all.* A friend of mine requested info/advice on swift nesting boxes, bat boxes and owl nesting boxes as well as advice on appropriate local species plantings, and also offered to open his land to wildlife rangers for bat studies, moth and butterfly counts, and any other studies they could think of. Despite his repeated contact and offers there was absolutely no useful response or visit from a wildlife ranger. He’s getting all his info from the net now, even though it’s often UK slanted info, not Ireland specific.
Edit; His land borders an SPA (Special Protection Area) on a Lough.
How do we get us some more of that tegrity?
Maybe if the government introduces a tax of some sort the problem will be solved
We need to use less land for farming.
We need more forestry!
And not native forestry! We need non-native Sitka spruce forestry, that’s farmed so the tightly together that no light touches the ground so the ground can sustain next to no life!
Is there any ongoing efforts to reforest parts of Ireland? If so I’d love to get behind it
Brilliant a map that is completely useless for those who are red green colour blind
Maybe we don’t like the ecology.
We’re trying to change it to that seen in bladerunner
Seriously what happened that Ireland was turned into countless empty fields? Who owns the fields now? Does anybody really know what happened here? Cause the history books are a pack of lies
We need more Tegridy
This is hardly surprising, the yearly budget for the National Parks and Wildlife service is just €47 million. To put that in perspective, we give €20 million a year to the greyhound racing industry. Our priorities are all wrong.
Is this because of farmland? What’s going on there?
Not in the least bit surprising. Ireland is a wasteland for biodiversity. We think we live in this gorgeous piece of heaven with green natural fields when it’s just ecologically dead farmland. We’ve destroyed this land for all our other inhabitants, its way past the time when something should have been done. Every inch of this land did not need to be ripped up for farmland.
Our national parks are pathetically small – all could fit into Snowdonia National Park in Wales. And the ones we do have still have sheep on them and are still planted with Sitka spruce plantations so I use the term national park very loosely. They’re also barely managed as the government puts so little resources into it.
We did / do have a chance, lots of farmers were selling up in places like Leitrim which could have been an opportunity to return that land to nature but no, we have to plant Sitka spruce plantations on them to further destroy it and make more money off it because that is all that’s important.
Didier Drogba levels of disgrace
As long as we’re afraid to confront our animal agriculture this is how it’s going to stay
Island is basically just a big farm. We’ve no high mountains or unfarmable areas and we massively overweight the importance of intensive agriculture to our economy. We should be doing less and at much bigger quality, selling at a premium. Instead we seem to just chase volume. I mean, take something like producing vast amounts of powdered milk, most of which gets used in other branded products – baby formula etc, and Irish agriculture seems to gain little from it, other than more and more cows, often farmed at little profit and dependency on subsidies.
Something very wrong with how we manage land and what we’re incentivising.
Even from a tourism point of view, a lot of Ireland stinks of slurry due to the sheer volume of the stuff we are disposing of by spraying it.
Everything seems to come down to intensive farming and lobbying on its behalf.
We’re also now heading into a situation where we won’t say boo to farmers, so we’ll overshoot our carbon emissions targets and place all the burden on householders, transport etc which is extremely expensive to fix, while basically subsidising CO2 emissions from agriculture, imagining that we are living in an agrarian economy, because it’s so baked into our mid 20th century view of self.
No surprises there. People hate trees in Ireland.
Communities need to start getting together and getting to know people better. We no longer know our neighbors or people who life directly across from us. The lack of integrity has led to a massive distrust in this country
Ireland has the least forest cover of any eu nation despite having been the most densely forested European country a few hundred years ago. It’s very sad.
Coilte are useless and are for profit and are doing more harm than good.
England saw to that many many moons ago.
I’m an ecologist and I’m in this picture.
Flat fucking farmland far as the eye can see. Would sicken your hole.
Some colossal forests would be amazing.
Build more houses! That’ll fix it!!
Belmullet to Clifton has a little bit more integrity by its sheep to people ratio
No no – don’t you realise? They’re reforesting with on-shore wind turbines! Rejoice!
The amount of people shiteing on about forestry in Ireland with no knowledge on the subject here is a disgrace. If people did any research into how forestry is being run now we would be a lot better off. Forestry just takes a long time to change due to the long rotation times
deadwood island
is this just a map of farmland?
Cyprus has a massive DMZ down the middle of it, what’s our excuse?
I think something like [this](https://images.app.goo.gl/Yuzqbj5vyjQUmnd66) is the image people have in their heads when they think of the Irish countryside. But what’s the point of it? Could someone give a sensible guess as to how many people all of that land is feeding? And how? (The cows are obvious.)
Why are there so many green fields and so little food?
Look at those Estonians go.
Not really lads theres literally nothing being grown in the fields, and not that much livestock either. Just empty fields. And it’s being kept that way by the Irish government too they’re as bad if not worse than the Brits ffs
That would be an ecological matter
Agriculture destroyed whatever natural environment there was in Ireland hundreds of years ago. The mass extinction horse bolted in Ireland long before we were born.
I remember reading George Monbiot’s ‘Feral: Rewilding the Land, Sea and Human Life’, and it completely changed how I looked at the land.
Athough mainly in reference to the UK, when he wrote about bleakly beautiful but essentially dead landscapes it hit home.
Edit: title of the book
this is utterly shameful
We need more trees- we have the least trees to area of all Europe.
From this picture you can see why Ireland is the most food secure country in the world.
Ireland’s green pastoral landscape is by definition an ecological disaster. We’re one of the most heavily deforested countries in the world and considering how much of our forestry went to build Nelson’s army, you’d think we’d give more of a fuck about it.
Actually, we actively seem to dislike trees. I live in Fingal and the council loves the idea of cutting down as many trees as it can get away with. Years ago we even had one of the Green Party councillors actively commending himself on the work he did getting the last vestige of one of North Dublin’s ancient forests decimated.
We’re not an agricultural nation anymore. We get more of our GDP from aerospace than we do farming. Let’s replant the forests already.
Would love to see a map of the whole planet with this. Interesting to see just how big of a scourge we are to the only place we ever lived on.
I used to live in Alsace, in the east of France on the Rhine – and the difference between the nature found there are here was substantial, far more forests, and in those forests it was not rare for the keen observer to spot red deer or chamoix in the mountains. And this is a place that has a population density multiple times that of Ireland. There is not an inch of anything left remotely resembling a natural area here, and it’s to the detriment of our quality of life
My grandfather said when he was a kid he used to hear the curlew all summer at night. Back before mechanised farming.
Now they’re ground up when the silage cutters come. If there’s even any left. All ground nesting birds in Ireland are absolutely fucked.
Ireland’s ecological issues are so clear yet we still have to listen to people like David McWilliams misleadingly claim we are the least densely populated country in Europe.