>The 47-page document published alongside the announcement detailed plans to pause a push for a conversion therapy ban in Scotland, instead looking to work with the UK Government.
>The push for the ban was spearheaded by the Scottish Greens while in coalition government under both Nicola Sturgeon and Humza Yousaf, but was seen as controversial by some, including religious groups – who feared it could criminalise pastoral care.
>A consultation was held on the subject, but no Bill was brought forward.
>The document said the Scottish Government would progress “our commitment to ending conversion practices in Scotland and work towards complementary approaches across the UK”.
>It added: “We will prepare legislation for introduction to the Scottish Parliament should a UK-wide approach not be achievable.
>“By strengthening the support and services available to victims and survivors of conversion practices, we will ensure inclusivity is at the heart of everything we do.”
>The Scottish Greens criticised the move, with the party’s equalities spokeswoman Maggie Chapman describing it as “deeply disappointing” and a “sad day for equalities in our country”.
>“There is no reason for this legislation to be outsourced to Westminster or for us to sign up to a process that we know will not only lead to significant delays, but could end up going nowhere,” she said.
>“Scottish voices would have limited influence and there are a lot of LGBTQIA+ people who simply do not trust the UK Government.
>“Scotland has the power to ban these practices now. We don’t need to wait for Westminster to do it for us.”
Feels like an unnecessary delay.
I’ve been hearing about a supposed UK-wide conversion therapy ban for years. I’ll believe it when it actually happens.
What’s the even point of not doing the ban for so long
Not only is it pretty internationally recognised amongst western countries as abuse
It doesn’t even work, it just seems like a weird way to punish LGBT people
>The push for the ban was spearheaded by the Scottish Greens while in coalition government under both Nicola Sturgeon and Humza Yousaf, but was seen as controversial by some, including religious groups – who feared it could criminalise pastoral care.
I wonder who in the SNP might have had this kicked into the long grass.
This looks very much like the SNP wanting to push responsibility on to the UK Government and stay out of the argument as much as possible.
No surprise for a government led by Swinney and Kate Forbes, but still a bit disappointing. There’s no reason they couldn’t have brought their proposals forward in parallel and agreed to adopt the UK version if it was similar and advancing on a reasonable timeline.
Jfc how are we still after fecking decades still debating conversion therapy bans. Unless there is something concrete from Westminster, just fucking ban it already and move on from a debate that should have ended years ago
Ah well, got to keep Forbes and the looneys happy somehow. And we were all told her and her fucking ilks religious beliefs wouldn’t affect SNP/government policy, so much for that idea
non-adults should never be able to go on gender drugs or have surgery to mutilate their body, and when they are adult enough to decide they really want this, psychiatrists step in for an evaluation and you pay for it all on your own.
This reminds me a lot of the Scottish Government’s approach to gender recognition reform. Some amount of consultation is of course good and welcome. But you can’t please everyone, and delaying things for too long gives time for the opposition to organised and become emboldened. Pinching an open flame hurts far less than holding your palm above it for an hour.
It’s pretty grim that even when the right wing parties are rejected at the ballot box we end up having right wing ideologies imposed on us anyway.
Massive amounts of work and logistics to implement bottle recycling – blocked by Westminster
Massive amounts of work to carry out huge public consultations and write legislation for the gender recognition act – blocked by Westminster
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>The 47-page document published alongside the announcement detailed plans to pause a push for a conversion therapy ban in Scotland, instead looking to work with the UK Government.
>The push for the ban was spearheaded by the Scottish Greens while in coalition government under both Nicola Sturgeon and Humza Yousaf, but was seen as controversial by some, including religious groups – who feared it could criminalise pastoral care.
>A consultation was held on the subject, but no Bill was brought forward.
>The document said the Scottish Government would progress “our commitment to ending conversion practices in Scotland and work towards complementary approaches across the UK”.
>It added: “We will prepare legislation for introduction to the Scottish Parliament should a UK-wide approach not be achievable.
>“By strengthening the support and services available to victims and survivors of conversion practices, we will ensure inclusivity is at the heart of everything we do.”
>The Scottish Greens criticised the move, with the party’s equalities spokeswoman Maggie Chapman describing it as “deeply disappointing” and a “sad day for equalities in our country”.
>“There is no reason for this legislation to be outsourced to Westminster or for us to sign up to a process that we know will not only lead to significant delays, but could end up going nowhere,” she said.
>“Scottish voices would have limited influence and there are a lot of LGBTQIA+ people who simply do not trust the UK Government.
>“Scotland has the power to ban these practices now. We don’t need to wait for Westminster to do it for us.”
Feels like an unnecessary delay.
I’ve been hearing about a supposed UK-wide conversion therapy ban for years. I’ll believe it when it actually happens.
What’s the even point of not doing the ban for so long
Not only is it pretty internationally recognised amongst western countries as abuse
It doesn’t even work, it just seems like a weird way to punish LGBT people
>The push for the ban was spearheaded by the Scottish Greens while in coalition government under both Nicola Sturgeon and Humza Yousaf, but was seen as controversial by some, including religious groups – who feared it could criminalise pastoral care.
I wonder who in the SNP might have had this kicked into the long grass.
This looks very much like the SNP wanting to push responsibility on to the UK Government and stay out of the argument as much as possible.
No surprise for a government led by Swinney and Kate Forbes, but still a bit disappointing. There’s no reason they couldn’t have brought their proposals forward in parallel and agreed to adopt the UK version if it was similar and advancing on a reasonable timeline.
Jfc how are we still after fecking decades still debating conversion therapy bans. Unless there is something concrete from Westminster, just fucking ban it already and move on from a debate that should have ended years ago
Ah well, got to keep Forbes and the looneys happy somehow. And we were all told her and her fucking ilks religious beliefs wouldn’t affect SNP/government policy, so much for that idea
non-adults should never be able to go on gender drugs or have surgery to mutilate their body, and when they are adult enough to decide they really want this, psychiatrists step in for an evaluation and you pay for it all on your own.
This reminds me a lot of the Scottish Government’s approach to gender recognition reform. Some amount of consultation is of course good and welcome. But you can’t please everyone, and delaying things for too long gives time for the opposition to organised and become emboldened. Pinching an open flame hurts far less than holding your palm above it for an hour.
It’s pretty grim that even when the right wing parties are rejected at the ballot box we end up having right wing ideologies imposed on us anyway.
Massive amounts of work and logistics to implement bottle recycling – blocked by Westminster
Massive amounts of work to carry out huge public consultations and write legislation for the gender recognition act – blocked by Westminster
I understand why they would be cautious